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escYOUnited
2nd May 2015, 20:58
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http://www.eurovision.tv/save-files/resizes/4f/e4/f4/cd/8a/fa/c3/16/80/81/3c/c3/d7/44/50/19/lazarev1.jpg

::ru Sergey Lazarev - You're The Only One ::ru

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w7hRZS-nLhY

Meet & Greet:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lQLIYogSjsw

AshleyWright
2nd May 2015, 20:59
I hope they send something different to the previous years. Maybe a cheesy peace ballad? xlove

Sabiondo
2nd May 2015, 21:56
Its turn to http://www.televesti.ru/uploads/posts/2010-09/1283692427_rtr-planeta.jpg for held an Russian NF :D


An advise for Russian fans: Please no more World Peace songs ballad.. :lol:

Nyusha for ESC 2016 for me, she is so fireceee..!!! xrosexshock


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=84kbG2ExdZs

lavieenrose
3rd May 2015, 02:13
I'll be unspeakably livid if Russia squander their rich and storied cultural fabric on a crappy peace ballad for the fourth year in a row.

Verjamem
3rd May 2015, 02:28
This time I'm expecting a cheesy peace song, to not be dissapointed in March ;)

Sabiondo
13th May 2015, 14:14
Other suggested list for Russian participants for Eurovision 2016 (Besides Nyusha) :mrgreen:

IOWA (My Top choice - I can't stop of listen their song ''Marshrutka'' xlisten2)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_TazBWWgOeQ

MBAND

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mpqorjNoFfc

Via Gra (The new Russian version band)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yPEsdQkY1eQ

Vintazh

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GWSmU87l_Kw

Nargiz Zakirova

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9dRFhVgEtCw

Glukoza

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ISz5L6P4zis

Timur Rodriguez

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bNJedmluOV8

Terence
13th May 2015, 16:27
VARVARA

Been repeating the same thing since 2006 or so...

Sabiondo
14th May 2015, 13:57
VARVARA

Been repeating the same thing since 2006 or so...

She is not longer interest to keep want competing in Eurovision as well, although she is still active in music.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FABjucogenQ

Sabiondo
14th May 2015, 14:01
Elena Termikova (ex-Serebro) was launch a new single the last month..:)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sUslfvnZxLU

revallsay
14th May 2015, 18:19
I'll keep fingers crossed for Tolmachevy Sisters featuring Polina Gagarina and Dina Garipova - Peace All Around The World xhat

WhoKnows
22nd May 2015, 17:03
Via Gra (The new Russian version band)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yPEsdQkY1eQ



Literally every girl in the current ViaGra is Ukrainian. Well, one is Hungarian but she and her family have lived in Ukraine for a while.

A-lister
22nd May 2015, 19:55
Literally every girl in the current ViaGra is Ukrainian. Well, one is Hungarian but she and her family have lived in Ukraine for a while.

I was just gonna say :lol:

Via Gra in its current form is a Ukrainian group...

What I wish for is that Russia stops sending songs about peace (I mean really!?!?) and stop importing cliché ballads in English from Sweden... I still can't over the fact that a country like Russia needs to settle with imports... I mean I can "get" if a small country without much of a local music scene would do it but Russia??? Really why? Kremlin TV hates west but still choose western entries... makes no sense :lol:

A REAL Russian song next year thank you in the beautiful Russian language!

Archer
22nd May 2015, 20:31
Kremlin TV hates west but still choose western entries...

Music is universal especially in this globalized world. And I don't see why you keep bashing certain countries for not sending folk songs. This is not a folklore contest.

A-lister
22nd May 2015, 20:41
Music is universal especially in this globalized world. And I don't see why you keep bashing certain countries for not sending folk songs. This is not a folklore contest.

Who talked about folk songs? :lol: It's not a folklore contest, but it's a contest where entries are suppose to represent their countries (this could mean folklore, Pop, Rock, R&B whatevs...)

But yes, let's make all music world-wide sound like dated American wannabe stuff to satisfy the greedy labels there xshrug

I'm only "bashing" the fact that countries, in a contest which is about to represent your country (duh), settle for importing entries from abroad that has no connection to the local music scenes what-so-ever... that's the issue here... and when a HUGE country like Russia can't even find a single Russian composer or producer? Then it's really sad...

Let's take Polina for instance... I love her Russian hits (they are POP and not FOLK :lol:) but we ended up with a cheesy imported dated ballad in English instead that sounds nothing like the songs that made her a big name on the current Russian Pop scene... in other words not representative of her as an artist nor the Russian music scene as a whole...

You do realize that their song choices lately are imported, calculated and manufactured to cater to the juries in ESC and wouldn't be chosen by the Russian public themselves (if they had any say that is)?

eerik
22nd May 2015, 20:57
Kremlin TV hates west but still choose western entries... makes no sense :lol:

Makes perfect sense to me. It's called propaganda.

A-lister
22nd May 2015, 20:59
Makes perfect sense to me. It's called propaganda.

And sucking up to juries :lol:

But yes I know... :(

Sabiondo
24th May 2015, 04:01
So, Nyusha, its time for the revenge in Sweden :mrgreen:

paddyirl
24th May 2015, 04:33
Serebro, Elena Termikova or the buxom Anna Semenovich :geek:

Sabiondo
24th May 2015, 07:57
´
Others suggestions:

Natali

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SYAf3JEB7Xc&spfreload=1

Yolka

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_RqGfVdfebk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mV5xJT7BnzE´

5sta Family

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YCcHfAn2jas

Uvaro
24th May 2015, 08:26
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IV4IjHz2yIo
xheat

BananaBoy
24th May 2015, 10:46
Calling it now -- Russia's participant next year is Putin himself.

lavieenrose
24th May 2015, 11:20
What I have realized is that I can't be excited after only the artist gets announced this year; I've been burned three years in a row now.

Sabiondo
24th May 2015, 15:25
Aleksandra Vorobyova from the last season of The Voice, could be a ESC great contestant as well :)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3XZVKR75Xg4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W6PHwls_cLI

blue00eyes
24th May 2015, 15:55
My dream participant finished 2nd. I really don't know who can win..

Now Nyusha pleaseee! !

A-lister
25th May 2015, 01:19
´
Others suggestions:

Yolka


She's Ukrainian...

Nyusha would be my first pick... but let's not waste it on a Swedish peace ballad import but actually send an entry that is TRUE to the artist...

Quent91
25th May 2015, 01:24
Please send a song in RUSSIAN. Don't submit yourself, your culture, your language and your history to the English language.

Sabiondo
25th May 2015, 02:13
She's Ukrainian...

Nyusha would be my first pick... but let's not waste it on a Swedish peace ballad import but actually send an entry that is TRUE to the artist...

Yes but Yolka is more active in the Russian market than Ukrainian. I can see her participating in an Russian NF than Ukrainian one.

I agree with you, i'm getting tired with that those World-Peace ballads from Russia, i know that Russian people loves talk about peace but in the situation where they are currently, it is now tiresome to hear more of the same and i hope that Russia return to their old contemporaneous hits (and risky) from 2012 and from the last decade like Song 1º :)

BTW.. Nyusha released a new song one week ago:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8c064lt0u_Q

LesterMalvo
25th May 2015, 02:20
That would be quite interesting Serebro feat Dima Bilan.

BarefootBoogaloo
25th May 2015, 05:33
Others suggestions:
5sta Family

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YCcHfAn2jas

xheya YESSSS TO 5STA FAMILY!!!

Chi-lli


https://youtu.be/hv0DwNc-S0s

Yuri Shatunov


https://youtu.be/gPSGjZQt9NM

Vera Brezhneva (I know this one's tricky because she was born in Ukraine and her father is half Ukrainian, but she's predominantly active in Russia)


https://youtu.be/n--TEFlviTU

Edited to add: completely forgot about Anastasia Stotskaya

https://youtu.be/zEBXANx7rdI

GWTW1939
25th May 2015, 07:06
Since everyone is getting tired of the peace ballads (Polina's 2nd however will probably make them stay on that path :() how about another "Party for Everybody" :mrgreen:

Sabiondo
25th May 2015, 11:44
Margarita Pozoyan (Finalist of first season of The Voice Russia) is interested in competing in ESC.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aq0QR6aaISM&list=PLA0B602DBB1E3F660

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tJI-HyD-TsY

Also Alexander Bon (Another runner up of last season of The Voice) also it could also be an option for Eurovision. Although he belongs to Channel One.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0aZIW8OmAKc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F3iqT3diuHY

A-lister
25th May 2015, 20:20
Yes but Yolka is more active in the Russian market than Ukrainian. I can see her participating in an Russian NF than Ukrainian one.

I agree with you, i'm getting tired with that those World-Peace ballads from Russia, i know that Russian people loves talk about peace but in the situation where they are currently, it is now tiresome to hear more of the same and i hope that Russia return to their old contemporaneous hits (and risky) from 2012 and from the last decade like Song 1º :)

BTW.. Nyusha released a new song one week ago:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8c064lt0u_Q

Active or not, she would be eaten alive both by the Russian and Ukrainian public... especially due to current events... I doubt they want another Prikhodko situation :lol:

Yeah, I was so happy to see Polina Gagarina this year as a choice only to be totally disappointed to see yet another imported peace ballad in English... such a waste since Polina has good songs in Russian and would be great to see some ACTUAL Russian music on the stage...

Nyusha would be great but only if they let her do something like her actual stuff and not something imported especially for ESC which has no connection to her own music or the Russian music scene in general...

Gosh I want rules back that songs must be made by people connected to the countries' music scenes...

tuorem
25th May 2015, 20:23
What about sending the true Polina Gagarina next year? :p

Sabiondo
25th May 2015, 20:30
What about sending the true Polina Gagarina next year? :p

I don't want see Polina the next year ;) maybe in 2017 or 2018 as well :lol:

tuorem
25th May 2015, 20:42
I don't want see Polina the next year ;) maybe in 2017 or 2018 as well :lol:

Her returning would be very unlikely anyway :D but I found it sad to waste that beautiful voice on such a formulaic song.

paddyirl
25th May 2015, 20:47
What about Lena Katina, surely they couldn't boo her.

A-lister
25th May 2015, 21:07
What about Lena Katina, surely they couldn't boo her.

Nowadays when vocals are more important than the songs they will never send someone who can't sing live...

A-lister
25th May 2015, 21:08
What about sending the true Polina Gagarina next year? :p

THIS! Send her again with an ACTUAL song that would be representative of her...

THIS is the true Polina:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fT8ElbZTGdg


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lNAbfovb408

paddyirl
26th May 2015, 01:47
Nowadays when vocals are more important than the songs they will never send someone who can't sing live...

Oh is Lena that bad, I'd always assumed it was the brunette who couldn't sing out of the two.

tuorem
26th May 2015, 02:30
A-lister

She's awesome.

But I feel like I've seen a totally different person in Vienna :o this is such a waste. And I'm certain she would have reached the same place in the final had she sung a song like the ones you posted.

Sabiondo
26th May 2015, 03:41
What about Lena Katina, surely they couldn't boo her.

She is not interested in ESC anymore, plus she was become mom 4 days ago (1 day before the final) xrosexlove so she will not had much time for the music as well.

LesterMalvo
26th May 2015, 06:12
I expected Russia to withdraw after 2014 contest, well, because of obvious reasons but they kept participating and they came up 2nd the next year. So I think Russia is an obvious participater. I don't have any favourite Russian singer so I have no wishlist to write over here. But I just don't want to see Russia overrated once more. They qualified for several times over while better countries than them failed in Eurovision history, and besides the worst current winner (for me, of course) is Dima Bilan. So I am not really glad to see Russia in the contest.

Oh, for those who accuse me as hater, I don't hate Russia, I only am sick of seeing Russia doing well with weak songs. Once again, for my taste of music of course. Besides, even though I am gay myself, I am strongly against to eurofans who hate Russia just because of political LGBT issues. This contest isn't meant to bespeak for LGBT community, they only love it and it is just fine.

Sabiondo
9th June 2015, 13:23
Nargiz Zakirova is the most popular choice among the Russian facebook users to representing Russia at ESC 2016 :)

https://pp.vk.me/c607824/v607824290/5b2a/kdKuQCBpY-g.jpg
https://pp.vk.me/c625123/v625123009/3f05f/qx3RZIXaEXk.jpg

ElRuso
9th June 2015, 13:29
She actually may represent us next year, as she is in good relations with both RTR and C1R. And, if she refuses RTR will probably send Katya Ryabova or Lerika.

AshleyWright
11th June 2015, 01:43
Lerika. xlove

Gabe
11th June 2015, 01:45
OMG PLEASEPLEASEPLASEPLASPELASPELASPLEPAS[LEAPESP LERIKA xpray xpray xpray xpray xpray

I'm in love with her :3

http://cs619231.vk.me/v619231227/d840/HduCHF27CoQ.jpg

Sabiondo
11th June 2015, 07:22
I don't want Lerika for ESC yet, she is to young for ESC, maybe in few years (in 2020) as well.

blein
11th June 2015, 20:34
Wanna see Julia Samoilova.... she will win it with easy

GWTW1939
12th June 2015, 01:11
I do wonder how close Nargiz was to being the representative this year xthink

From what I have read it seems like Polina wasn't officially a done deal until very close to when they announced her. For a while it really did look like Nargiz and then suddenly Polina's name started dominating and then she was announced. Perhaps Nargiz was their second choice if the Polina deal fell through

paddyirl
12th June 2015, 05:08
Nargiz would be great, she'd certainly add something and stand out at ESC.

ElRuso
12th June 2015, 11:35
I do wonder how close Nargiz was to being the representative this year xthink

From what I have read it seems like Polina wasn't officially a done deal until very close to when they announced her. For a while it really did look like Nargiz and then suddenly Polina's name started dominating and then she was announced. Perhaps Nargiz was their second choice if the Polina deal fell through

As far as I understand, Nargiz wasn't invited to take part this year at all. At least, she said it. It seems C1R just chose between two songs (one from Kirkorov and Kontopolous and one from the Swedish team) and then just invited Polina to take part.

Hopefully, RTR will send Nargiz, but I don't think that they will reveal any info until the late March.

GWTW1939
12th June 2015, 17:14
Yeah, we probably won't know anything till near the deadline like this year. Although it was good to know, after everything, that they were on top of it even if we didn't know anything publically. At least they were organized

ChernyVolk
15th June 2015, 16:13
And T-killah for ESC 16 no?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8gvJX_L71bs

RomanFromRussia
15th June 2015, 19:49
And T-killah for ESC 16 no?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8gvJX_L71bs

NO, PLEASE.

Tesla Boy xcheer


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ybyHYreTkHw

Scooby
16th June 2015, 22:50
Russian pop star Zhanna Friske passed away today from brain cancer. She was 41. :(

Friske (also known by her birth name Jeanna Friske) was a member of the Russian girl-group Blestyashchie from the late '90s, before departing in 2003 to pursue acting and her solo music career. Her film credits include notable roles in Timur Bekmambetov’s horror films Night Watch and Day Watch and she released a string of singles and a self-titled album, which dropped in 2005.

The entertainer had announced he was suffering with late stage brain cancer in January 2014 and it had been reported she was planning to establish a fund to help support those afflicted with cancer. It’s understood she declined to undergo chemotherapy due to the threat the procedure posed to her unborn child; she gave birth to a boy in April of that year.

Покойся с миром Жанна Фриске :(


https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=S8zLU6bgL0o

Sabiondo
17th June 2015, 00:03
Russian pop star Zhanna Friske passed away today from brain cancer. She was 41. :(

Friske (also known by her birth name Jeanna Friske) was a member of the Russian girl-group Blestyashchie from the late '90s, before departing in 2003 to pursue acting and her solo music career. Her film credits include notable roles in Timur Bekmambetov’s horror films Night Watch and Day Watch and she released a string of singles and a self-titled album, which dropped in 2005.

The entertainer had announced he was suffering with late stage brain cancer in January 2014 and it had been reported she was planning to establish a fund to help support those afflicted with cancer. It’s understood she declined to undergo chemotherapy due to the threat the procedure posed to her unborn child; she gave birth to a boy in April of that year.

Покойся с миром Жанна Фриске :(


https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=S8zLU6bgL0o

OMG I'm so devasted...:(

RomanFromRussia
17th June 2015, 18:01
Russian pop star Zhanna Friske passed away today from brain cancer. She was 41. :(

Friske (also known by her birth name Jeanna Friske) was a member of the Russian girl-group Blestyashchie from the late '90s, before departing in 2003 to pursue acting and her solo music career. Her film credits include notable roles in Timur Bekmambetov’s horror films Night Watch and Day Watch and she released a string of singles and a self-titled album, which dropped in 2005.

The entertainer had announced he was suffering with late stage brain cancer in January 2014 and it had been reported she was planning to establish a fund to help support those afflicted with cancer. It’s understood she declined to undergo chemotherapy due to the threat the procedure posed to her unborn child; she gave birth to a boy in April of that year.

Покойся с миром Жанна Фриске :(


https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=S8zLU6bgL0o


It was like I lost a part of my childhood ;(

R.I.P.

Shmelsasha
19th June 2015, 21:04
Russian pop star Zhanna Friske passed away today from brain cancer. She was 41. :(

Friske (also known by her birth name Jeanna Friske) was a member of the Russian girl-group Blestyashchie from the late '90s, before departing in 2003 to pursue acting and her solo music career. Her film credits include notable roles in Timur Bekmambetov’s horror films Night Watch and Day Watch and she released a string of singles and a self-titled album, which dropped in 2005.

The entertainer had announced he was suffering with late stage brain cancer in January 2014 and it had been reported she was planning to establish a fund to help support those afflicted with cancer. It’s understood she declined to undergo chemotherapy due to the threat the procedure posed to her unborn child; she gave birth to a boy in April of that year.

Покойся с миром Жанна Фриске :(


https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=S8zLU6bgL0o

She is also wife of Dmitry Shepelev... :(

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CzwuYbGMfWs

Nikkita
23rd June 2015, 15:57
I'll puke if i'll see another peace ballad.

AshleyWright
23rd June 2015, 16:27
I'll puke if i'll see another peace ballad.

Better get the bucket ready then.

niko
23rd June 2015, 21:46
Russian pop star Zhanna Friske passed away today from brain cancer. She was 41. :(

Friske (also known by her birth name Jeanna Friske) was a member of the Russian girl-group Blestyashchie from the late '90s, before departing in 2003 to pursue acting and her solo music career. Her film credits include notable roles in Timur Bekmambetov’s horror films Night Watch and Day Watch and she released a string of singles and a self-titled album, which dropped in 2005.

The entertainer had announced he was suffering with late stage brain cancer in January 2014 and it had been reported she was planning to establish a fund to help support those afflicted with cancer. It’s understood she declined to undergo chemotherapy due to the threat the procedure posed to her unborn child; she gave birth to a boy in April of that year.

Покойся с миром Жанна Фриске :(


https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=S8zLU6bgL0o

Loved her role in "Dnevnoy dozor", one of my favorite movies. Too bad that we can't use the Chalk :(:(:(:(:(

I am so sad :(

Verjamem
23rd June 2015, 21:51
Maybe at least it will be something more like 2014 than 2013 & 2015.

niko
23rd June 2015, 22:29
I say it every year - We need slut pop! xyaaayxyaaayxyaaayxyaaayxyaaayxyaaayxyaaay

greece
23rd June 2015, 23:25
Something like 2000-2012 Russia please xpray

Sabiondo
24th June 2015, 13:01
I say it every year - We need slut pop! xyaaayxyaaayxyaaayxyaaayxyaaayxyaaayxyaaay

Something like this from Serebro!! :mrgreen:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LeNUTFfSK6k

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yN4Dv8OYGac

Nikkita
24th June 2015, 15:13
Something like this from Serebro!! :mrgreen:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LeNUTFfSK6k

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yN4Dv8OYGac

Their Eurovision song was very good and Mama Lube was my summer jam so i'd love to see Serebro again :lol:

Franco
26th June 2015, 18:41
Russian pop star Zhanna Friske passed away today from brain cancer. She was 41. :(


Sad news. I like some of her songs. :(

Sabiondo
26th June 2015, 20:44
Their Eurovision song was very good and Mama Lube was my summer jam so i'd love to see Serebro again :lol:

But won't be the same explosive band as they where in 2007, their main face Elena Temnikova left the group and Serebro isn't the big thing since then. :(

Kinotor6
1st July 2015, 03:43
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Z80oE8yJww

Kinotor6
1st July 2015, 03:52
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s66TmzWSd8A

vavera4ka
2nd July 2015, 05:09
yes please, Serebro. then it will be easy to chose my least favorite song.

Sabiondo
6th July 2015, 04:13
What about the newcomers Vremya & Steklo?? they are doing well at Russian charts with this song :)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n3Go8ub9a1k


Also i love the new video of Nyusha, an Indian style choreography like this could fantastic for Russia in ESC!!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IwpDzJE4fc8

A-lister
8th July 2015, 16:44
What about the newcomers Vremya & Steklo?? they are doing well at Russian charts with this song :)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n3Go8ub9a1k

They are Ukrainian...



Also i love the new video of Nyusha, an Indian style choreography like this could fantastic for Russia in ESC!!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IwpDzJE4fc8

I'm all for Nyusha, but with the current route Russia is on regarding ESC they would probably just waste her on some imported English cheesy ballad like they did on Polina... it's so sad when they pick great names but settle with songs that have nothing to do with these artists and are just bought for the ESC.

vlatko
8th July 2015, 19:10
Volkova from tatu :p

Paddy
8th July 2015, 20:11
I really want to hear something in Russian next year xlove

vlatko
8th July 2015, 23:08
I really want to hear something in Russian next year xlove

xyeah

vavera4ka
8th July 2015, 23:26
I really want to hear something in Russian next year xlove
I want something in Russian from Russia, in Ukrainian from Ukraine and in Belarusian from Belarus...
but I doubt we get any of that... :(

Paddy
8th July 2015, 23:46
I want something in Russian from Russia, in Ukrainian from Ukraine and in Belarusian from Belarus...
but I doubt we get any of that... :(

Something Ukrainian is more possible than the years before if u consider the political situation atm I think. But Belarus and Russia will probably send something in horrible English again :lol:

vavera4ka
9th July 2015, 21:06
Something Ukrainian is more possible than the years before if u consider the political situation atm I think.
proverbial silver lining? :lol:

but I seriously wish they'd impose a rule that a song has to be at least some percentage in official language of the country.

Sammy
10th July 2015, 01:25
I really want to hear something in Russian next year xlove

It's about time!!!

Verjamem
10th July 2015, 13:32
I really want to hear something in Russian next year xlove

http://i.ytimg.com/vi/HsgqEFbt8mA/hqdefault.jpg

It would be really nice to get a entry in Russian. The whole song is not necessary, maybe at least a half in Russian and half in English ;)

ElRuso
10th July 2015, 18:48
Nysha announced that she doesn't want to participate in the Eurovision.




I'm all for Nyusha, but with the current route Russia is on regarding ESC they would probably just waste her on some imported English cheesy ballad like they did on Polina... it's so sad when they pick great names but settle with songs that have nothing to do with these artists and are just bought for the ESC.

Next year it is RTR turn, so it will be something Russian. RTR sent 2014, 2012, 2010, 2008 and 1994 entries.

A-lister
10th July 2015, 19:12
Nysha announced that she doesn't want to participate in the Eurovision.



Next year it is RTR turn, so it will be something Russian. RTR sent 2014, 2012, 2010, 2008 and 1994 entries.

2014 Russian? As far as I remember it was also an imported ballad in English xshrug

It's a shame Nyusha doesn't want to, but things can change, if she would consider I hope they'd give her free hands to send an entry in her own style and not imported for ESC.

ElRuso
10th July 2015, 22:05
2014 Russian? As far as I remember it was also an imported ballad in English xshrug

It's a shame Nyusha doesn't want to, but things can change, if she would consider I hope they'd give her free hands to send an entry in her own style and not imported for ESC.

It was written by Kirkorov who is Russian, with the help from Kontopolous, who is Greek which is close to Russia.

As for Nysha, Kirkorov offered her help in the next Eurovision. Maybe, in the end, she will agree.

Schlagerman1
12th July 2015, 03:09
It was written by Kirkorov who is Russian, with the help from Kontopolous, who is Greek which is close to Russia.

As for Nysha, Kirkorov offered her help in the next Eurovision. Maybe, in the end, she will agree.

I guess he means something IN Russian, you know he likes that stuff... :rolleyes:

Anyhow I really look forward what RTR brings next year! Overall I think the other channel has had the stronger bunch of songs, but there are some lovely like Russia 94 and 2010. :D

ElRuso
12th July 2015, 07:59
I guess he means something IN Russian, you know he likes that stuff... :rolleyes:

Anyhow I really look forward what RTR brings next year! Overall I think the other channel has had the stronger bunch of songs, but there are some lovely like Russia 94 and 2010. :D

Maybe, but 2014 wasn't imported 8-)
And it is RTR who won the contest for us.:D Also, RTR can send songs like ::ru 2012, while C1R is playing safe. But both channels are good.

A-lister
12th July 2015, 14:24
It was written by Kirkorov who is Russian, with the help from Kontopolous, who is Greek which is close to Russia.

As for Nysha, Kirkorov offered her help in the next Eurovision. Maybe, in the end, she will agree.

Kirkorov is Bulgarian, but yes it's true his career is based in Russia. I don't know much about Kontopolous other than he is this guy some countries hire especially for Eurovision, he's more like G:son or or Ralph Siegel :lol:

So imported or not, it was an entry especially made for Eurovision with no actual ties to Russian music.

I'm just saying it would be nice to get an actual Russian song made by Russian talents, in Russian language, and not especially made for Eurovision.

ElRuso
12th July 2015, 16:11
Kirkorov is Bulgarian, but yes it's true his career is based in Russia. I don't know much about Kontopolous other than he is this guy some countries hire especially for Eurovision, he's more like G:son or or Ralph Siegel :lol:

So imported or not, it was an entry especially made for Eurovision with no actual ties to Russian music.

I'm just saying it would be nice to get an actual Russian song made by Russian talents, in Russian language, and not especially made for Eurovision.

Kirkorov's mother was from Russia, so it is like saying, that Eric Saade is not Swedish.

DanielLuis
12th July 2015, 17:30
Kirkorov's mother was from Russia, so it is like saying, that Eric Saade is not Swedish.

That is not the point of what he is trying to say. Surely you agree the past Russian entries haven't been exactly Russian?

ElRuso
12th July 2015, 17:34
That is not the point of what he is trying to say. Surely you agree the past Russian entries haven't been exactly Russian?

Well, 2014, 2012, 2010, 2009, 2006, 2003, 2002, 2001, and all the 90s entries were typical Russian modern music. If we don't count the language.

tuorem
14th July 2015, 11:43
Sorry for the question, but how come two broadcasters are in charge of Eurovision in Russia?

A-lister
15th July 2015, 15:15
Kirkorov's mother was from Russia, so it is like saying, that Eric Saade is not Swedish.

Huh? Eric Saade is born in Sweden, Kirkorov is born in Bulgaria... not sure what you're trying to say here? I did however agree (and never denied) that Kirkorov is based in Russia and has his career there.


That is not the point of what he is trying to say. Surely you agree the past Russian entries haven't been exactly Russian?

Apparently it's difficult to grasp what I mean but yes this is what I mean...

A-lister
15th July 2015, 15:17
Well, 2014, 2012, 2010, 2009, 2006, 2003, 2002, 2001, and all the 90s entries were typical Russian modern music. If we don't count the language.

I agree about all of them except for maybe 2014... with that said the past years is what I'm actually referring to, and definitely not the 90's (the rules of Eurovision were different back then even so it's hard to compare).

ElRuso
15th July 2015, 16:24
Huh? Eric Saade is born in Sweden, Kirkorov is born in Bulgaria... not sure what you're trying to say here? I did however agree (and never denied) that Kirkorov is based in Russia and has his career there.



If Eric Saade is Swedish just because he was born in Sweden, then, for example, Helene Fischer is Russian, Despina Vandi is German and Hadise is Flemish?

A-lister
15th July 2015, 17:09
If Eric Saade is Swedish just because he was born in Sweden, then, for example, Helene Fischer is Russian, Despina Vandi is German and Hadise is Flemish?

Yes, I consider Eric Saade Swedish (afterall he is born here, raised in a mixed Swedish household in Sweden plus is still living here and is having his career here plus ethnically half-Swedish) so not really sure what point you're trying to make? He is definitely not like those other cases you compare with xshrug

Again, what do you want to say? Ok let's say Kirkorov is Russian, doesn't change that the song wasn't really "Russian" so to speak. It was a product made especially for Eurovision more or less with that Greek guy who is one of those "buy a ESC production" producers, and my initial point is that I would prefer a more genuine Russian product.

ElRuso
15th July 2015, 19:02
Yes, I consider Eric Saade Swedish (afterall he is born here, raised in a mixed Swedish household in Sweden plus is still living here and is having his career here plus ethnically half-Swedish) so not really sure what point you're trying to make? He is definitely not like those other cases you compare with xshrug

Again, what do you want to say? Ok let's say Kirkorov is Russian, doesn't change that the song wasn't really "Russian" so to speak. It was a product made especially for Eurovision more or less with that Greek guy who is one of those "buy a ESC production" producers, and my initial point is that I would prefer a more genuine Russian product.

Then why you don't consider Kirkorov as a Russian, apart from the thing that he was born in Bulgaria he is identical to Saade.

And Kontopolous was not bought especially for the Eurovision. He was present on the Russian music scene since 2004, and produced/wrote numerous songs for singers like Ani Lorak, Anastasiya Stotskaya and Kirkorov.

Actually ::ru invited foreign composers with no connection to the Russian music only in 2000, 2008, 2011, 2013 and 2015. All others songs have been written by Russian composers and lyricists.

A-lister
15th July 2015, 19:15
Then why you don't consider Kirkorov as a Russian, apart from the thing that he was born in Bulgaria he is identical to Saade.

And Kontopolous was not bought especially for the Eurovision. He was present on the Russian music scene since 2004, and produced/wrote numerous songs for singers like Ani Lorak, Anastasiya Stotskaya and Kirkorov.

Actually ::ru invited foreign composers with no connection to the Russian music only in 2000, 2008, 2011, 2013 and 2015. All others songs have been written by Russian composers and lyricists.

Ok, can we drop the Kirkorov case finally? Ok he is Russian, never mind what I said...

I dunno who Anastasiya Stotskaya is, but Kontopolous is to Russia what G:son is to Spain or Siegel is to San Marino... maybe slightly more involved but more or less a Eurovision hired "producer". I assume he worked with Ani Lorak and Kirkorov due to their Eurovision involvements, it does make sense.

Again I was referring mostly to the recent years and that I would prefer something that more resemblance the Russian music scene rather imported ballads in English (or alteast ballads in English made especially for ESC). I don't think what I said was in particular bad, quite the contrary since I am actually supporting the idea of something Russian in here.

ElRuso
15th July 2015, 20:19
I dunno who Anastasiya Stotskaya is, but Kontopolous is to Russia what G:son is to Spain or Siegel is to San Marino... maybe slightly more involved but more or less a Eurovision hired "producer". I assume he worked with Ani Lorak and Kirkorov due to their Eurovision involvements, it does make sense.


Actually, he first started to work with Kirkorov since he made a duo with Sakis Rouvas in 2004, and he was not involved with Eurovision until 2005 when Kirkorov asked him to write the song for Stotskaya (which came 4th in the NF), and in 2014 Kirkorov asked him to co-write the song for the twins. That's all. He worked more on albums for Ani Lorak and Kirkorov than Eurovision. While, Gson and Siegel don't work for the local music scene.

As for the Russian language, don't expect it until the return of the 100% televoting, cause now our broadcasters are playing safe.

Paddy
16th July 2015, 18:44
Actually, he first started to work with Kirkorov since he made a duo with Sakis Rouvas in 2004, and he was not involved with Eurovision until 2005 when Kirkorov asked him to write the song for Stotskaya (which came 4th in the NF), and in 2014 Kirkorov asked him to co-write the song for the twins. That's all. He worked more on albums for Ani Lorak and Kirkorov than Eurovision. While, Gson and Siegel don't work for the local music scene.

As for the Russian language, don't expect it until the return of the 100% televoting, cause now our broadcasters are playing safe.

I don't think bad pronounced english is safer than singing in russians which is spoken by millions of people especially in eastern europe fluently..

GWTW1939
16th July 2015, 23:56
I don't think bad pronounced english is safer than singing in russians which is spoken by millions of people especially in eastern europe fluently..

Well when it comes to English the Russian participants have been rather good with their pronunciation. There may be a tiny accent on certain words but overall the English is good and easy to understand. When it comes to English singing from East Europeans Russia is probably the best.

ElRuso
19th July 2015, 20:07
Nysha won't go to the ESC.

Also, there was a rumor that Nicole Scherzinger wants to do Eurovision. She will be the best choise for ::ru

Vera
21st July 2015, 21:32
Please send a song in RUSSIAN. Don't submit yourself, your culture, your language and your history to the English language.

xclap

ClassifiedCat
21st July 2015, 22:05
Also, there was a rumor that Nicole Scherzinger wants to do Eurovision. She will be the best choise for ::ru
Source?

ElRuso
21st July 2015, 22:07
Source?

It was on some OGAE site, I think. Anyway, it is just a rumor. Maybe RTR will approach her, she has Russian origin and is pretty popular here.

Shmelsasha
26th July 2015, 16:40
Dreams dreams dreams...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YRjVss5tTQo

Carrie
27th July 2015, 19:13
It was on some OGAE site, I think. Anyway, it is just a rumor. Maybe RTR will approach her, she has Russian origin and is pretty popular here.

If Nicole did ESC she would certainly do it for ::uk. She loves it here.

ElRuso
27th July 2015, 19:25
If Nicole did ESC she would certainly do it for ::uk. She loves it here.

BBC won't approach her, and if RTR will, I don'n think that she will decline the offer. Besides, she has more chances with ::ru than with ::uk

Sean
27th July 2015, 21:35
Didn't realise she was part-Russian. No chance though.

Scooby
1st August 2015, 22:34
After Polina this year I expect another big name for next year

CaraMia
19th August 2015, 01:26
What about the timeless rumour concerning Sergey Lazarev? Is it finally in 2016? :lol: He has a new song, btw! :D


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qPMypN6lQU0

ElRuso
20th August 2015, 00:32
CaraMia He is already to old.

ClassifiedCat
20th August 2015, 01:00
CaraMia He is already to old.
You mean the song, right?

niko
23rd August 2015, 15:39
I want SEREBRO back!

blue00eyes
31st August 2015, 11:05
RUSSIA 2016 - Serebro - "Peace for everybody" :)

niko
31st August 2015, 12:04
RUSSIA 2016 - Serebro - "Peace for everybody" :)

No, it would be something like "Peace is number one" xlove

blue00eyes
31st August 2015, 12:56
No, it would be something like "Peace is number one" xlove
Good idea. Peace is always #1 especially in Russia :)

niko
31st August 2015, 12:58
Good idea. Peace is always #1 especially in Russia :)

But of course! Russia is the most peaceful country in the world and everybody needs to know that. xrollinglol

blue00eyes
31st August 2015, 13:01
But of course! Russia is the most peaceful country in the world and everybody needs to know that. xrollinglol
Without any doubt! xhug

vavera4ka
31st August 2015, 23:43
RUSSIA 2016 - Serebro - "Peace for everybody" :)

more like "Piece of Cherry Pie for Everybody"

GWTW1939
1st September 2015, 02:43
Cherry Pie :lol:

https://popculturestop.files.wordpress.com/2015/07/tumblr_nqs46ns0bh1spur4co1_1280.png?w=700&h=300&crop=1

8-)

BarefootBoogaloo
27th September 2015, 09:01
ELLO's YouTube channel re-uploaded most of Vera Brezhneva's music videos.

The songs are still in Russian, but her name is Romanized, the song titles are translated and the descriptions all say

Former lead singer of popular Russian girl band Via Gra and now successful solo artist.
One of the sexiest women in Russian show business.

along with English lyrics to the songs and a link to a playlist with the new videos.

I mean, maybe I'm reading too much into it, but, why would they re-upload her music videos with English titles and lyrics???

Sammy
27th September 2015, 18:05
I really hope, Russia sends something different than the last years. A group for instance, a male singer or a duet. And please, something catchy and up tempo No more ballad with cheesy "we heal the world"-lyrics. Maybe in two or three years time again, .....


http://static1.squarespace.com/static/5515e944e4b027cd33717d77/t/55c0f5a6e4b04eee6673bbcf/1438709161590/

tuorem
27th September 2015, 20:17
I want RUSSIAN LANGUAGE... please :oops:

Sabiondo
30th September 2015, 20:51
::ru is in :) Priviet Sweden !!

http://esctoday.com/105459/russia-rtr-confirms-participation-in-eurovision-2016/

Nikkita
1st October 2015, 22:11
Maybe it's time for Dima's rival, Sergey Lazarev, to take his chance? :D

ChernyVolk
7th October 2015, 20:03
and....a come back for 2016...half come back?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pn0XYSw5Bdc&feature=youtu.be

GWTW1939
7th October 2015, 23:20
Maybe it's time for Dima's rival, Sergey Lazarev, to take his chance? :D

Maybe its just me but following what supposedly has been happening behind the scenes the last two years (if its all true) I get the feeling Sergey does want to do it but is holding back for various reasons only he really knows. Perhaps because he's afraid of being booed and doesn't want that type of pressure and spotlight on him or he's afraid of failure I don't know.

That's just my opinion but I get the feeling he will do it at some point xshrug

Sabiondo
8th October 2015, 01:39
and....a come back for 2016...half come back?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pn0XYSw5Bdc&feature=youtu.be

No thank you, she will be bullied by all the EuroGay fans in Sweden after her homophobic comments.

GWTW1939
8th October 2015, 07:25
No thank you, she will be bullied by all the EuroGay fans in Sweden after her homophobic comments.

It doesn't really matter who Russia sends since any singer they send will be bullied by the EuroGay fans ;)

They could send Mother Theresa and they would still be bullied. Russia should just send whoever they want and not be dictated by the hypocritical bullies :geek:

LalehForWD
8th October 2015, 09:36
No thank you, she will be bullied by all the EuroGay fans in Sweden after her homophobic comments.

EuroGay fans in Sweden? Who are they? Never seen, never heard of before. It's true many Swedes will feel uncomfortable with Russian participation in Eurovision, but that is entirely due to recent Russian military provocations in the Baltics and elsewhere. I doubt there will be Swedes booing in the arena, but if there is booing I don't think SVT will try to mask it with pre-recorded cheering. My personal opinion is that is unworthy of Russia to participate in friendly cultural and sport events while being at war. I feel embarrassed on their behalf for playing along in what appears as a Putin propaganda spectacle. Sorry

Sabiondo
8th October 2015, 11:28
EuroGay fans in Sweden? Who are they? Never seen, never heard of before.

I mean the OGAY's & the rest of Eurovision club from Europe and from others parts of the World with pro-gay mentality who will come only to bully the Russian artist (No matter what who is) just for make a clear message to Putin for its actions in Syria & Ukraine and with the Gay People in Russia won't be tolerated outside of Russia.

For not mentions that if Russia leads the voting in the final, all the public will boo it and pray that an Gay Friendly country from Western Europe or Scandinavia wins Eurovision for avoid that they have to go for Russia just for be insulted, harassed or arrested by the Russian police if they promotes the homosexuality as positive thing. :o

It's sad that a minority thinks that their are the owner of this competition, create and imposes its own rules of tolerance with certain participants.:confused::rolleyes:

LalehForWD
8th October 2015, 12:24
I mean the OGAY's & the rest of Eurovision club from Europe and from others parts of the World with pro-gay mentality who will come only to bully the Russian artist (No matter what who is) just for make a clear message to Putin for its actions in Syria & Ukraine and with the Gay People in Russia won't be tolerated outside of Russia.

For not mentions that if Russia leads the voting in the final, all the public will boo it and pray that an Gay Friendly country from Western Europe or Scandinavia wins Eurovision for avoid that they have to go for Russia just for be insulted, harassed or arrested by the Russian police if they promotes the homosexuality as positive thing. :o

It's sad that a minority thinks that their are the owner of this competition, create and imposes its own rules of tolerance with certain participants.:confused::rolleyes:

I'm no expert in Eurovision fan communities or gay communities (I'm not really sure I'm a fan myself and I'm not gay), but my impression of the booing of Russian Eurovision participants is that it is not at all coming from Swedes. If booing is at all mentioned on Swedish sites or media it is always condemned. I've seen it discussed and supported in another country though. tbh I think it's pretty unfair and sloppy to blame Sweden and Swedes without any grounds or specific proof, just feeding the general Eurovision fan grudge against Sweden.

niko
8th October 2015, 14:24
Swedes hate Russia, because Russia is better than Sweden and we all know that :D

Swedes want to act like royalty, but the truth is that outside Eurovision, Russia holds Sweden by the balls. And that's what pisses them off so much.

So stupid. So immature. So Swedish.

LalehForWD
8th October 2015, 17:16
niko I'm amazed of your brilliant analysis of the Russian relation to the Swedes. Or was it the other way around? What Putin does and thinks isn't necessary the Russian way you know.

Sammy
9th October 2015, 08:47
Swedes hate Russia, because Russia is better than Sweden and we all know that :D

I have a two swedish friends, and they don't hate Russia. One of them even works in St. Petersburg. So the first part of your sentence is clearly wrong.
In alpine skiing, there are MUCH more victories for Sweden than for Russia, so your overall statement in the second part is clearly wrong too.
I don't know, if Russia is better than Sweden or if Sweden is better than Russia as you don't say in what respect you compare these two countries. So the third part of your statement is also clearly wrong.

Can't we stop these generalizations here? Please!

Nikkita
10th October 2015, 17:38
No thank you, she will be bullied by all the EuroGay fans in Sweden after her homophobic comments.
Sorry but she deserved it, she gained all her fame from a faux lesbian act, the way she talked was like spitting to her meal. I am not even gay but i'd boo her too. She and her so-called "voice" tried it in 2003, and the EuroGays™ made her 3rd. This time now, she lost all her fame, and apparently dignity, so even with their big diaspora Russia would fail in the final. She needs to stop with Eurovision, not because "the passive agressive evil gay fan base", because she has no talent.

Scooby
11th October 2015, 15:45
My personal opinion is that is unworthy of Russia to participate in friendly cultural and sport events while being at war. I feel embarrassed on their behalf for playing along in what appears as a Putin propaganda spectacle. Sorry

And for example UK is not involved in war in Syria right now? Few days ago NATO bombed a hospital in Afghanistan?

LalehForWD
11th October 2015, 17:29
And for example UK is not involved in war in Syria right now? Few days ago NATO bombed a hospital in Afghanistan?

I think it is a matter of honour and honesty. You got to ask yourself why you participate in these events. Lets take for example sports events. Is it to showcase your country to the world and prove your strength and skill? Or is it more of a friendly exchange and a platform for individual achievements under a common banner and format? How can you compete under friendly and equal terms while at the same time being at war? Your participation tends to be surrounded by suspicion and denunciation and your attitude defiant. Ultimately it is the individual contestants that will take the blow and the overall experiences will be miserable afterwards. It is an awkward and embarrassing situation, not at all the fun and honourable experience it should be.

Russia is our neighbour and we rather prefer to socialise on friendly terms. When this is not possible it is better to keep a respectful distance in my opinion. As I said it is a matter of honesty, honour and respect. Note that I'm not trying to be hostile to Russia in any way and I dare to say that all Europeans would be happy for a friendly Russia in close cooperation with us.

Just consider: Do the Russians feel they want to be friends with Europe? Do the Russians expect to be treated friendly by Europe? Are the Russians making any efforts to improve their relations with Europe?

Scooby
11th October 2015, 18:10
I think it is a matter of honour and honesty. You got to ask yourself why you participate in these events. Lets take for example sports events. Is it to showcase your country to the world and prove your strength and skill? Or is it more of a friendly exchange and a platform for individual achievements under a common banner and format? How can you compete under friendly and equal terms while at the same time being at war? Your participation tends to be surrounded by suspicion and denunciation and your attitude defiant. Ultimately it is the individual contestants that will take the blow and the overall experiences will be miserable afterwards. It is an awkward and embarrassing situation, not at all the fun and honourable experience it should be.

Russia is our neighbour and we rather prefer to socialise on friendly terms. When this is not possible it is better to keep a respectful distance in my opinion. As I said it is a matter of honesty, honour and respect. Note that I'm not trying to be hostile to Russia in any way and I dare to say that all Europeans would be happy for a friendly Russia in close cooperation with us.

Just consider: Do the Russians feel they want to be friends with Europe? Do the Russians expect to be treated friendly by Europe? Are the Russians making any efforts to improve their relations with Europe?

And what is the difference between Russian politic from one side and politics of USA and, for example Great Britain from other side? All big players on global politic scene play dirty and use kicks under the belt. Whole Europe today talk about refugees from Syria but how many of them know that more than million people from eastern Ukraine fled to Russia (they are refugees too)? Thats why we don't need to mix politics with music, art and sport.

LalehForWD
11th October 2015, 19:49
And what is the difference between Russian politic from one side and politics of USA and, for example Great Britain from other side? All big players on global politic scene play dirty and use kicks under the belt. Whole Europe today talk about refugees from Syria but how many of them know that more than million people from eastern Ukraine fled to Russia (they are refugees too)? Thats why we don't need to mix politics with music, art and sport.

Well I agree with you USA is somewhat in the same boat and for example Israel as well. The Brits may be headstrong sometimes, but it was a long time ago they waged war of aggression and centuries ago they were any threat to their neighbours. What I'm saying isn't an exact science and I would never feel the same way towards for example Israel. Sympathies and respect are earned qualities, nothing you can demand or expect being fair. Perhaps it is true Russia has a longer way to go than others to meet trust and respect. It surely doesn't help when they're rushing in the opposite direction

Scooby
14th October 2015, 12:44
Well I agree with you USA is somewhat in the same boat and for example Israel as well. The Brits may be headstrong sometimes, but it was a long time ago they waged war of aggression and centuries ago they were any threat to their neighbours. What I'm saying isn't an exact science and I would never feel the same way towards for example Israel. Sympathies and respect are earned qualities, nothing you can demand or expect being fair. Perhaps it is true Russia has a longer way to go than others to meet trust and respect. It surely doesn't help when they're rushing in the opposite direction

And who is that who can say what is right direction? Assad is on western eyes dictator and tyrant (even we all know that Assad's Syria is only secularised Arab state on Middle East) and is legitimate to fight against him, but hey Saudi King is democratic ruler cause his country is US alliance. For me personally Assad is amateur compared to for example Turkish president.

We goes to far in offtopic here

LalehForWD
14th October 2015, 17:48
And who is that who can say what is right direction? Assad is on western eyes dictator and tyrant (even we all know that Assad's Syria is only secularised Arab state on Middle East) and is legitimate to fight against him, but hey Saudi King is democratic ruler cause his country is US alliance. For me personally Assad is amateur compared to for example Turkish president.

We goes to far in offtopic here

Well, it all started with the accusation of "Swedish gay fans" ruling all of Eurovision and booing everything Russian. It's was getting really tedious years ago already to see this constant bashing of Sweden at every possible opportunity. If you are annoyed by Russia being criticised, don't take it out on Sweden for crying out loud! :D

AGRush
15th October 2015, 20:09
special for A-lister...
Please remember that no more shame...
Via Gra and Yolka Ukrainian and Russian singers .. These artists Velvet Music as well as Vera Brezhnev, Polina Gagarina, Vintage, MBAND, Valery Meladze.
http://www.velvetmusic.ru/site/artists
Velvet Music is based in Moscow:
http://www.velvetmusic.ru/site/contacts
Yolka even lives in Moscow:
https://vk.com/id60731512

we do not divide the singers on the Russian and Ukrainian! they loved in Russia and Ukraine .. Do not separate them Ukrainians and Russian instead of us, please! We are still better to know who is who;)

I'm sorry if this has been said rudely

AlekS
15th October 2015, 23:59
no more shame...
https://coub.com/view/22y6z
:lol: :lol: :lol:

ps. Meladze gang etc. Considering that my dad knew him since his student days I can guess what kind of person he is and I'm thankful that he gets your money. Bigger = better. If it was my will I'd sent them all to you :lol:

As for Russian entry. As long as it's not another hypocrite twisted song about peace and respect that would be gr8 and a nice step forward.

A-lister
23rd October 2015, 21:06
special for A-lister...
Please remember that no more shame...
Via Gra and Yolka Ukrainian and Russian singers .. These artists Velvet Music as well as Vera Brezhnev, Polina Gagarina, Vintage, MBAND, Valery Meladze.
http://www.velvetmusic.ru/site/artists
Velvet Music is based in Moscow:
http://www.velvetmusic.ru/site/contacts
Yolka even lives in Moscow:
https://vk.com/id60731512

we do not divide the singers on the Russian and Ukrainian! they loved in Russia and Ukraine .. Do not separate them Ukrainians and Russian instead of us, please! We are still better to know who is who;)

I'm sorry if this has been said rudely

Just pointing out facts, not division. All I'm saying is that considering the circumstances, I find it hard to see that Russian TV will pick a Ukrainian as their entrant or vice versa. Of course acts are having careers and are popular in both countries, I never said they weren't, but just remember all the reactions back in 2009 when Anastasiya represented Russia?, and it wasn't even a "crisis" like now... just saying.

GWTW1939
23rd October 2015, 22:03
From what I gather Ukrainians and Russians in general don't have a problem with each other at all xshrug

Those who do are only a small minority with their own special interests. And as always the minority always chants the loudest making it sound like their the majority when in reality their not xdoh

It seems the West would like to see Ukrainians and Russians hate each other and keep saying they do but the truth is they don't know much about everything as they claim they do.

AlekS
23rd October 2015, 23:17
And as always the minority always chants the loudest making it sound like their the majority when in reality their not xdoh
Then 90% Russians (according to latest stats) who support their president are bipolar or delusional because liking Putin and liking/being neutral to Ukrainians is impossible. You rather steal from/murder us or like us.
Anyway. I won't be surprised that their entry will get our 12pts from televoting no matter what they send. Just like we won't get 12pts from them for sure.
So I guess minority is the voice of sanity but their million (what an irony) voices won't be heard.


Those who do are only a small minority with their own special interests.
ps. Gimme my "special interests" bishez 8-) Wait a sec. I have none. Dayum!

Odalis
24th October 2015, 10:44
From what I gather Ukrainians and Russians in general don't have a problem with each other at all xshrug

Those who do are only a small minority with their own special interests. And as always the minority always chants the loudest making it sound like their the majority when in reality their not xdoh


Words of reality and wisdom, thank you.

Odalis
24th October 2015, 10:45
liking Putin and liking/being neutral to Ukrainians is impossible.

I like both (Kiev is one of my fav cities in the world). Any problem with it?

RomanFromRussia
24th October 2015, 13:13
Maybe we should stop discussing politics. Yes, maybe politics of my country is far from being ideal, I don't like things did by president of my country, but we are here to discuss music. Because now it seems like if Russia sends in 2017 ideal song, it would be hated just because it's Russia. Is it tolerance? I think not.


So in order to change the topic in Russian ESC thread, I'll post some artists I want to see from Russia


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T1E-OVnOXis


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tOsc_8CM2fY


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rE6dUc8QlfE

Peace to everyone xheart

RomanFromRussia
24th October 2015, 13:15
Just pointing out facts, not division. All I'm saying is that considering the circumstances, I find it hard to see that Russian TV will pick a Ukrainian as their entrant or vice versa. Of course acts are having careers and are popular in both countries, I never said they weren't, but just remember all the reactions back in 2009 when Anastasiya represented Russia?, and it wasn't even a "crisis" like now... just saying.

Maybe it was because people didn't like "Mamo" at all. I'm neutral to Anastasiya, but as for me Mamo is really one of the worst russian entries sent to ESC (along with Lost And Forgotten)

A-lister
24th October 2015, 13:35
Maybe it was because people didn't like "Mamo" at all. I'm neutral to Anastasiya, but as for me Mamo is really one of the worst russian entries sent to ESC (along with Lost And Forgotten)

Funny, I happen to think it's the best Russian entry to date (I for one can't stand the imported English lyrics "peace and love" cheese that has been sent for the past years)... but that's irrelevant... the reactions were targeting the choice of artist (being Ukrainian) and that parts of the lyrics being in Ukrainian and not the actual entry itself. Of course I don't refer to the common comments about "like" or "dislike" the song, that's happening every year with every chosen entry from every country, there will always be haters and lovers of a song so that's hardly uncommon.

RomanFromRussia
24th October 2015, 14:43
Funny, I happen to think it's the best Russian entry to date (I for one can't stand the imported English lyrics "peace and love" cheese that has been sent for the past years)... but that's irrelevant... the reactions were targeting the choice of artist (being Ukrainian) and that parts of the lyrics being in Ukrainian and not the actual entry itself. Of course I don't refer to the common comments about "like" or "dislike" the song, that's happen every year with every chosen entry from every country, there will always be haters and lovers of a song so that's hardly uncommon.

Maybe it's not because she was ukrainian, maybe it was because country with population over 140 millions people sends artist from the country that can be compared with the region of the bigger one?

It's like Italy goes with artist from San Marino, like it was no choice

Mickey
24th October 2015, 15:28
Mamo and Lost and Forgotten are my two favourite Russian entries.

I'd love them to go back to that sort of music rather than the fake peace and love ballads they now send. They're not real music. They're just cynically designed identikit reality winners songs with added world peace to win over the gullible. They're almost parodies of Eurovision peace songs.

It's not simply the politics that makes me hate Russia at ESC. It's the way that politics influences the crap they send.

tuorem
24th October 2015, 19:59
Mamo and Lost and Forgotten are my two favourite Russian entries.

I'd love them to go back to that sort of music rather than the fake peace and love ballads they now send. They're not real music. They're just cynically designed identikit reality winners songs with added world peace to win over the gullible. They're almost parodies of Eurovision peace songs.

Preach! "Mamo" was beyond awesome to me, and "Lost and Forgotten" isn't far behind xcheer It's definitely the Russia I'd like to see and hear again in the contest.

I don't get why people may prefer fake songs like "What If" and "A Million Voices" tbh, it's so formulaic and so not representative of the Russian music.

In my opinion, the Russian delegation is just wasting talents (RIP Dina's and Polina's potential) on unadventurous entries. And that's strange because Russia CAN afford sending true interesting music as they qualify all the time.

I hope for a change next year, I enjoyed "Shine" but three songs about peace in a row are more than enough. I want genuine songs.

DanielLuis
24th October 2015, 22:46
I agree as well that Russia's style is definitely in need of a change, even though I liked "A million voices" very much. A more traditional ballad like "Mamo" would be welcomed, or something like "Song#1" as I miss that kind of music in Eurovision.

GWTW1939
24th October 2015, 23:57
Everybody hated "Mamo" and "Lost and Forgotten" when they were competing now suddenly their the best Russia has sent :rolleyes: They placed outside the top 10 and even then people said they finished too high. Its popular to trash the Russian entry the year its competing and then praise it later on when it gives them a chance to trash the current one :lol:

Those type of songs will NEVER come close to winning, something the Russians involved in ESC and people here know deep down. And judging from the reaction of Polina's placement last year that's pretty much what people here seem to want, Russia out of the running before it even starts xshrug

DanielLuis
25th October 2015, 03:29
Everybody hated "Mamo" and "Lost and Forgotten" when they were competing now suddenly their the best Russia has sent :rolleyes: They placed outside the top 10 and even then people said they finished too high. Its popular to trash the Russian entry the year its competing and then praise it later on when it gives them a chance to trash the current one :lol:

Those type of songs will NEVER come close to winning, something the Russians involved in ESC and people here know deep down. And judging from the reaction of Polina's placement last year that's pretty much what people here seem to want, Russia out of the running before it even starts xshrug

Mamo came 10th. And do you know if us who are praising that song said we didn't like it back in 2009? That sounds a little bit too ridiculous.
And even more ridiculous is suggesting someone wants Russia to flop just because they like the 2009 and 2010 entries instead of the recent ones. It's a matter of taste. If you read these comments and that's what you automatically think, I think your view is too skewed and biased to judge our opinions properly.

Mickey
25th October 2015, 13:42
Everybody hated "Mamo" and "Lost and Forgotten" when they were competing now suddenly their the best Russia has sent :rolleyes: They placed outside the top 10 and even then people said they finished too high. Its popular to trash the Russian entry the year its competing and then praise it later on when it gives them a chance to trash the current one :lol:

Those type of songs will NEVER come close to winning, something the Russians involved in ESC and people here know deep down. And judging from the reaction of Polina's placement last year that's pretty much what people here seem to want, Russia out of the running before it even starts xshrug

I loved both songs at the time and never understood people's hatred of them.

It's not as if it's a straight choice between competing for the top spots and sending cliched ballads. The likes of Serebro and Dima managed to do well while sending normal pop songs.

What I hate about the current Russian songs is that they are so cynically constructed to gather votes with no attempt at creating anything modern or musically interesting. I find it thoroughly depressing that such trash still does well. My country repeatedly underperforms at Eurovision, but I'd much rather that than repeatedly send stuff that makes Eurovision look so awful.

tuorem
25th October 2015, 22:37
Same. I've always loved the aforementioned songs and always disliked the uninventive ballads they've sent recently. And I don't care if it's Russia or another country, had "A Millions Voices" been sent by the UK, Greece or Norway, it wouldn't have changed my opinion about it. Songs like these are specific to the contest.

The issue I have is that Russia's music scene has a big potential for the contest, and I find it sad to come up with songs like those while they could promote the material that's genuinely liked by people in the country.

Of course, there will always be some people who'll say Russia is trash mainly because it's Russia, but I don't think that was the point of our discussion. Even with those songs made to please everyone, they didn't win (both in 2013 and 2015), so why not get back to genuineness?

Berivan
26th October 2015, 09:57
Best Russian entry was 2012... They should just stick to sending grannies! xyes

Den
26th October 2015, 23:11
Grannies finally constructed a church in their home village, so they're not interested in showbizz anymore xwave

AshleyWright
26th October 2015, 23:19
I remember seeing the Grannies on our evening news a few occasions, just before eurovision. xlove one of the few times until recently eurovision has got coverage here outside of the actual shows.

DanielLuis
27th October 2015, 00:14
I remember seeing the Grannies on our evening news a few occasions, just before eurovision. xlove one of the few times until recently eurovision has got coverage here outside of the actual shows.

Same here, they were on our news when they were selected in March

AGRush
19th November 2015, 22:41
Wow wow wooooow! It's realy cool!!! I want to see anything like this at the contest!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ccCW9sfVFJ4

Scooby
23rd November 2015, 16:14
Please Russia send this amazing girl to Stockholm xlovexlovexlove


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mx4Sw-ClFeg

Sammy
23rd November 2015, 18:58
Please Russia send this amazing girl to Stockholm xlovexlovexlove


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mx4Sw-ClFeg

She's really good, but I'd like something more uptempo this time from Russia. All but a ballad please!

Nicky
23rd November 2015, 19:00
Please send hottie Sergey Lazarev to Stockholm or Polina Gagarina or Dina Garipova again! :D xpray

Sabiondo
23rd November 2015, 22:33
Please Russia send this amazing girl to Stockholm xlovexlovexlove


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mx4Sw-ClFeg

Everyone in Russia wants Nargiz Zakirova in Eurovision! :mrgreen:

vavera4ka
23rd November 2015, 23:31
Everyone in Russia wants Nargiz Zakirova in Eurovision! :mrgreen:
which probably means she'll go in like 5-6 years lol

just like with Polina: everyone wanted her to go for ages, and she finally did only last year (well... this year lol)

GRE
24th November 2015, 19:55
The russian representative for this year is one of these:

Sergey Lazarev, Gregory Leps, Valeriya, Emin, Victoria Dayneko

GWTW1939
24th November 2015, 20:22
The russian representative for this year is one of these:

Sergey Lazarev, Gregory Leps, Valeriya, Emin, Victoria Dayneko


Where did you hear this from?

GRE
24th November 2015, 20:58
Where did you hear this from?

Kirkorov said it at the presentation show of his new video.
Many russian pop stars attended the event.
Also the greek composer, Dimitris Kontopoulos.
And Kirkorov mentioned "I am very happy that tonight my friend and colleague Dimitris Kontopoulos is with us. Dimitris is a great composer and musician that had many successful entries at the Eurovision Song Contest among them “Shady Lady” and “Work you magic”. And having said that I will reveal a small secret : The Russian participant at the Eurovision Song Contest 2016 is here with us tonight”.

AlekS
24th November 2015, 21:04
Yeah, Kirkorov said that. Wondering if he was drunk :mrgreen: Wondering if RTR knows :lol:


Sergey Lazarev basically denied that in a big interview he gave to MK 2 weeks ago: "I never wanted to go to Eurovision really bad. This is delusion. I've been searching for a "trampoline" to the West, it's true. But Eurovision is not a "trampoline", it's a story that lasts only 1-2 weeks. That's all."


"... Kirkorov always implies that every year. It became a byword".

Scooby
24th November 2015, 21:58
Kirkorov said the same last year lool

GWTW1939
24th November 2015, 23:33
Kirkorov said the same last year lool

Did he really? I don't recall him actually saying anything.

I only remember some teasing tweets about a "big journey" and pictures with the typical team that did ESC songs, then all the ESC related sites jumping to conclusions and going crazy over it.

Odalis
26th November 2015, 04:51
Everyone in Russia wants Nargiz Zakirova in Eurovision! :mrgreen:

Not with a song like that though...:?

GRE
26th November 2015, 23:35
Accordind to the Russian newspaper “MK”,
the representative of the country will be

Sergey Lazarev

GWTW1939
27th November 2015, 03:08
Even if the artist has already been chosen, and it could possibly be, it would be amazing if the name were to leak out this early. They usually do a good job keeping it under wraps until the near end. According to ESCKAZ only twice the Russian artist was revealed before March. The earliest was Dina Garipova on February 19th in 2013.

Sammy
27th November 2015, 07:28
It would be great if Russia returned to national finals instead of internal selectuons.

Sabiondo
27th November 2015, 10:46
It would be great if Russia returned to national finals instead of internal selectuons.

But in Russia, no one is interested to held the NF cause here are no interest and furthermore no big artist want to take part due the risk to their carriers.

Sammy
27th November 2015, 19:29
But in Russia, no one is interested to held the NF cause here are no interest and furthermore no big artist want to take part due the risk to their carriers.
You don't necessarily need big artists for a NF. Besides, if that was true, it would not be the question of NF or internal selection.
But why is there allegedly so little interest after all the great results in the past?

ChernyVolk
27th November 2015, 21:46
Ok Lazarev but...Elena Temnikova no?????

Sabiondo
28th November 2015, 04:01
You don't necessarily need big artists for a NF. Besides, if that was true, it would not be the question of NF or internal selection.
But why is there allegedly so little interest after all the great results in the past?

In Russia the people just watch the Russian NF only if a big name (Sergey, Nyusha, Serebro, etc..) takes part here even if the winner is already fixed, if not then its not make sense for Rossiya 1 making a NF with unknown artists, plus making a NF project its taking much time for them and they don't have much time for it.

blue00eyes
1st December 2015, 00:04
Not with a song like that though...:?
Still better than peace song :p

Uvaro
10th December 2015, 23:15
apparently sergey lazarev was just confirmed to be the 2016 entrant at the national music awards?

Den
10th December 2015, 23:18
apparently sergey lazarev was just confirmed to be the 2016 entrant at the national music awards?

yup!
http://super.ru/news/116490 (video in Russian)

ESCPOLAND
10th December 2015, 23:21
He will represent RUSSIA :O

Hehe I like him! Good luck Russia ;D

Fierro
10th December 2015, 23:27
This is victory.

blue00eyes
10th December 2015, 23:32
It's gonna be the best Eurovision ever

MyHeartIsYours
10th December 2015, 23:43
Woo Russia ftw!!

Sabiondo
10th December 2015, 23:48
So, Russia is ready for the revenge with xrose??


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jkvydN_95O0


Im fuck*ing glad that my years wet dream was made come-true... see you in #StPeterburg2017 girls #Davai


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=McXJKq8lJc4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9zSrMi-C_iQ

Koori
10th December 2015, 23:54
for 10 years in a row he was regretting ESC and finally :D

would like to hear smth like that ^^


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z_JHwPYXH7U

ESCPOLAND
10th December 2015, 23:56
Official statement :P


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wre9Ks8xUBU

GWTW1939
10th December 2015, 23:57
This probably means it will be an up-tempo since I can't see him going to ESC with anything else 8-)

He will almost certainly get the whole Eastern bloc behind him as Polina did. It will be interesting to see how the jury will respond xthink They won't be playing games that for sure xshifty

Romeo
11th December 2015, 00:03
Moscow 2017 anyone?

AlekS
11th December 2015, 00:09
If he combines same old combo of Swedowision and Kirkorov/Kontopoulos I'll be extremely happy because this broadcaster deserves nothing else.
Thus I hope that he won't be "enslaved" by RTR producers.

GWTW1939
11th December 2015, 00:10
This is the earliest they have ever announced a representative by over 2 months :o

I wonder why so early...was it threatening to spill out and they wanted to beat them to the punch? They don't have a song yet so it makes it even more odd.

Smudy
11th December 2015, 00:13
This guy is awesome, listened to some songs of him. x12s

AlekS
11th December 2015, 00:14
This is the earliest they have ever announced a representative by over 2 months :o
Another "thanks" for ruining ESC season with a predictable result :lol:
Even worse than Loreen and Rybak. Just give him the ESC trophy and start the new one...

niko
11th December 2015, 00:16
Russia just won the contest. xheat

Sabiondo
11th December 2015, 00:27
Moscow 2017 anyone?



St. Peterburg is better than Moscow, in fact the next year the New Zenit Stadium will be inaugurated (for Confederations cup & FIFA World cup 2018) and will be the perfect place to held ESC in 2017 as well.

http://www.pedestrian-dynamics.com/images/new_zenit_stadion_normal.jpg
http://www.designboom.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/stadium-designboom-01.1.jpg

Sabiondo
11th December 2015, 00:32
But unless if Australia sends *Kylie Minogue*, UK sends *Adele*, Italy send *Laura Pausini, Nek or Eros Ramazzotti* and Spain sends *Enrique Iglesias* and Nordic countries like Denmark and Norway sends amazing songs, this could be a bloody battle as well. So, its better that ::ru don't count the chickens before birth with him as well! :D

niko
11th December 2015, 00:33
He will almost certainly get the whole Eastern bloc behind him as Polina did. It will be interesting to see how the jury will respond xthink They won't be playing games that for sure xshifty

Why are you so surprised? Russia sent a diva in her prime. It's like the US sending Whitney Huston in the '90s. Polina's 2nd place was expected and logical. She is one of the biggest Russian music stars at the moment.

BTW, Italy did the same and Il Vollo got a great result too. People like familiar faces and Polina Gagarina is one of them. Deal with it.

The thing that Russia sends Sergey just sais that the people there understand the contest and send actual current divas and current pop-stars while countries like the UK try to recycle old hags like Bonnie Tyler and the results speak for themselves. Russia is in the top 10 while UK is somewhere at the bottom.

vavera4ka
11th December 2015, 00:35
I like him :)
But I liked Polina too, until that hypocrisy of a song (even if a beautiful song that was done very well)

As long as Sergey doesn't go that route I will be all for him winning :)
Dude can sing. And he moves well too. Some fast paced dance song would be great. No ballads please....

Scooby
11th December 2015, 00:44
Am I the only one who don't like him?
However, this is great for Eurovision, second year in a row Russia send their biggest stars. Polina deserved that win this year, so next year will be Russian year for sure.
Good luck, hope for great song

GWTW1939
11th December 2015, 00:50
Why are you so surprised? Russia sent a diva in her prime. It's like the US sending Whitney Huston in the '90s. Polina's 2nd place was expected and logical. She is one of the biggest Russian music stars at the moment.

BTW, Italy did the same and Il Vollo got a great result too. People like familiar faces and Polina Gagarina is one of them. Deal with it.

The thing that Russia sends Sergey just sais that the people there understand the contest and send actual current divas and current pop-stars while countries like the UK try to recycle old hags like Bonnie Tyler and the results speak for themselves. Russia is in the top 10 while UK is somewhere at the bottom.

I think you misunderstood me. I'm not surprised at all, I fully expect it. That's why he was chosen!

I was mentioning it in connection with the jury because I really do wonder how the jury will respond. Polina beat their chosen one in the televote last year and I don't think they expected that or liked it at all. The jury will know this time exactly what Sergey's selection means and I doubt they will over look it if they really don't want Russia to win. Many people say Sergey doesn't have the strongest of voices and I wouldn't be surprised if the jury uses as an excuse to mark him down to counter balance the expecting high televote.

niko
11th December 2015, 00:52
Who gives a fuck about his voice?

https://eurovisionireland.files.wordpress.com/2015/12/sergey-lazarev-take-it-off-5.jpg

niko
11th December 2015, 00:55
I think you misunderstood me. I'm not surprised at all, I fully expect it. That's why he was chosen!

I was mentioning it in connection with the jury because I really do wonder how the jury will respond. Polina beat their chosen one in the televote last year and I don't think they expected that or liked it at all. The jury will know this time exactly what Sergey's selection means and I doubt they will over look it if they really don't want Russia to win. Many people say Sergey doesn't have the strongest of voices and I wouldn't be surprised if the jury uses as an excuse to mark him down to counter balance the expecting high televote.

That's one of the reasons why the jury has to go. They don't seem to vote about the music, but about the countries. That is the same political voting that they should be against of.

Sammy
11th December 2015, 00:57
Official statement :P


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wre9Ks8xUBU

Thank god, we probably won't hear a peace song from him. xthank

AlekS
11th December 2015, 00:58
because I really do wonder how the jury will respond.
I already hear them rolling out the red carpet.
EBU likes money it will be their holy cow & their will milk/polish it to the last tit :lol:

AlekS
11th December 2015, 01:00
Who gives a fuck about his voice?
*facepalm* xdoh

(though he has a good voice)

Sammy
11th December 2015, 01:00
Many people say Sergey doesn't have the strongest of voices and I wouldn't be surprised if the jury uses as an excuse to mark him down to counter balance the expecting high televote.

Excuse me, but isn't that the duty of a jury, to judge vocal capacities (besides other criteria?) You hardly can say, that's an excuse, can you?

niko
11th December 2015, 01:01
Excuse me, but isn't that the duty of a jury, to judge vocal capacities (besides other criteria?) You hardly can say, that's an excuse, can you?

How many points did they give to Jedward?

GWTW1939
11th December 2015, 01:02
That's one of the reasons why the jury has to go. They don't seem to vote about the music, but about the countries. That is the same political voting that they should be against of.

I was pretty shocked at how well Polina did with Western voters and after that I have no trouble believing Sergey will at least do the same or better. That makes it even more interesting because the idea that no Western country will ever vote for Russia was close to smashed. They can no longer that that for granted

AlekS
11th December 2015, 01:02
The juries are unpredictable as f--k.

Praising such crap like Gaitana's performance... for heck's sake. And screwing the girls with gr8 vocals.

Sammy
11th December 2015, 01:04
How many points did they give to Jedward?

I don't know, but since you mention then, I reckon quite high points. Well, I'm not saying all the juries do a good job all the time. But blaming juries for doing their job IF they do it, is not quite understandable for me.
Besides, let's wait for his vocal performance before speculations on a possible unfair jury vote. From what I heard, he's not the strongest singer of all time, but he has better vocal capacities than some of successful entries in the past. And with a cleverly chosen song, he will make an excellent impression.

GWTW1939
11th December 2015, 01:04
The juries are unpredictable as f--k.

Praising such crap like Gaitana's performance... for heck's sake.

Yes their criteria beyond the official changes every year :lol:

Chances are Sergey will have a very commercial song. Who wants to bet all talks of that will disappear after bringing it up last year :rolleyes:

AlekS
11th December 2015, 01:08
Yes their criteria beyond the official changes every year :lol:
Their voting is logical like drunken slut in a pub :lol:


I wouldn't minded his victory but imho he perfectly realizes what kind of broadaster chose him so I can't.
And I want us to take part in 2017 :?
A bunch of jurors would voted for him even if satan/Hitler/*insert any scum's name* sent him ... "bicuz it's all about soooongs" -stupid c*nt facial expression here-.

Fierro
11th December 2015, 01:21
Lazarev has bad voice? What a lie! His performance on Ukraine's The Voice shows opposite. Watch from 2:09


http://youtu.be/ez_lP6c3vuI?t=2m9s

That duet xheart Sergey, you got my 12 points!

AlekS
11th December 2015, 01:26
Lazarev has bad voice? What a lie! His performance on Ukraine's The Voice shows opposite. Watch from 2:09


http://youtu.be/ez_lP6c3vuI?t=2m9s

Not the best video to show his vocal abilities :? But he has a good voice.
It doesn't matter because the best package wins, not the best vocals. Lena wasn't Callas, for heck's sake :lol:

Fierro
11th December 2015, 01:30
I just recalled he was juror and played first random video with him from that show :lol:


Lena wasn't Callas, for heck's sake :lol:

Lena was awful at vocal, let's admit. I wonder how she became The Voice juror with such abilities.
Though she is still my favorite of 2010.

AlekS
11th December 2015, 01:41
Lena was awful at vocal, let's admit. I wonder how she became The Voice juror with such abilities.
Though she is still my favorite of 2010.
That song became my fave after Eurovision. I still dislike her.
ps. I wonder how we like the Hardkiss at all. Not any single fave of ours coincides.

ps2. Why the hell do you want Barskih? He has no chances against Lazarev. Montell and other pretty boys will steal his votes though, no point in sending another one.
Lazarev should stimulate other broadcasters (interested in ESC) to pawn him and make ESC less predictable.

Odalis
11th December 2015, 01:45
If they waste that perfect yummy package on a peace ballad i swear i'll break something SOOC

AlekS
11th December 2015, 01:48
If they waste that perfect yummy package on a peace ballad i swear i'll break something SOOC
they aren't THAT stupid :lol:

Fierro
11th December 2015, 01:48
Ok you will hate me but i post this once more:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rh8PKhA1s3I

AlekS
11th December 2015, 01:49
Ok you will hate me but i post this once more:
pink trousers! SOOC *mah eyes! Mah eyes are bleeding!* :lol:

Odalis
11th December 2015, 02:09
they aren't THAT stupid :lol:

I wouldn't be THAT optimistic :lol:

QwaarJet
11th December 2015, 02:12
Am I the only one who don't like him?
However, this is great for Eurovision, second year in a row Russia send their biggest stars. Polina deserved that win this year, so next year will be Russian year for sure.
Good luck, hope for great song

Matter of debate there, I feel she didn't even deserve top 10, but Russia almost always get good results, regardless of what they send.

However, if I end up really liking the song, then I'll cheer it on to second place. Can't imagine liking it though...only time I loved a Russian entry was in 2009 with Mamo.

niko
11th December 2015, 02:16
Russia just won the contest. That's all I'm gonna say.

Odalis
11th December 2015, 02:26
Russia just won the contest. That's all I'm gonna say.

I find it so sweet when people say that even without hearing a song :D
Sergey is a winning material himself but there are many other factors we still don't know.

hugh
11th December 2015, 03:01
Sergey Lazarev.... hmmm interesting, that's a really good choice there from Russia. Well now I know already I'll be voting for Russia in May.

Carrie
11th December 2015, 03:14
Hmm, I'm unsure if he will be as good as Polina... good luck to Russia though xcheer

MyHeartIsYours
11th December 2015, 03:53
Ok you will hate me but i post this once more:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rh8PKhA1s3I
This is good! I hope he sends something like this... wearing this outfit :p

Odalis
11th December 2015, 06:10
This is good! I hope he sends something like this... wearing this outfit :p

I hope he's not going to wear anything...at all xqueenbitch

Chorizo
11th December 2015, 08:21
Russian peace songs are always great, no matter who sings them. xup

blein
11th December 2015, 08:43
No matter what he will do/sing jury will not let him win. But he is much better than Bilan and his song are good.

GRE
11th December 2015, 10:11
It seems that Russia wants to take the trophy again.
I'm not sure if EBU wants it also, though. :p

Stiven
11th December 2015, 11:47
I okay as the only person who has never heard of him on this forum from the song posted here(TAKE IT OFF) seems too overly sexualized hopefully his ESC song won't be of that genre. That being said for me it all depends on the song if they send good song I will support them if they send a bad song I will not support them.

Odalis
11th December 2015, 12:17
I okay as the only person who has never heard of him on this forum from the song posted here(TAKE IT OFF) seems too overly sexualized hopefully his ESC song won't be of that genre. That being said for me it all depends on the song if they send good song I will support them if they send a bad song I will not support them.

He's not always like that ;)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qPMypN6lQU0

LesterMalvo
11th December 2015, 13:20
Ok you will hate me but i post this once more:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rh8PKhA1s3I

This song is amazing xheart If he sings such an uptempo song on the stage and if he has a good skill of singing live, he will rock the stage xheart

So far, I am very pleasant with Russia's decision.

Mickey
11th December 2015, 14:17
I was wondering if we would have a change of emphasis from Russia next year. Love and peace works well for them when their narrative is one of Russians under attack from Western-funded Ukrainian Nazis, but when they're going after ISIS the narrative switches to one of war. In that case, switching to a male singer makes sense.

I'd love Sergey to bring the dancy pop of those videos to the Eurovision stage, but my money is on a ballad about fighting for what you believe in.

niko
11th December 2015, 14:21
I was wondering if we would have a change of emphasis from Russia next year. Love and peace works well for them when their narrative is one of Russians under attack from Western-funded Ukrainian Nazis, but when they're going after ISIS and standing shoulder to shoulder with Western nations, the narrative switches to one of war. In that case, switching to a male singer makes sense.

xyeah

Shmelsasha
11th December 2015, 14:33
xshockxshockxshock

wow wow wow
Love his ballads

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Sdiql0w9H0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-uGeTKfWUVc


BUT PLEASE GIVE ME SMTH LIKE MY FAV SONG OF HIM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ancNBSHp8_M

AlekS
11th December 2015, 14:49
I was wondering if we would have a change of emphasis from Russia next year. Love and peace works well for them when their narrative is one of Russians under attack from Western-funded Ukrainian Nazis, but when they're going after ISIS and standing shoulder to shoulder with Western nations, the narrative switches to one of war. In that case, switching to a male singer makes sense.

I'd love Sergey to bring the dancy pop of those videos to the Eurovision stage, but my money is on a ballad about fighting for what you believe in.
That's why the broadcasters (because it's both - ORT & RTR) who preach such sick narrative & commit crimes against humanity in another country should be banned from the EBU.
With Lazarev they are going to preach how they're tolerant to gays. They always send something opposite from what they do in the real life.
I expect "we're one" crap :lol:

Mickey
11th December 2015, 14:53
That's why the broadcasters (because it's both - ORT & RTR) who preach such sick narrative & commits war crimes on the war field should be banned from the EBU.
With Lazarev they are going to preach how they're tolerant to gays. They always send something opposite from what they do in the real life.
I expect "we're one" crap :lol:

Is Sergey actually out in Russia?

AlekS
11th December 2015, 15:00
Is Sergey actually out in Russia?
They (the broadcaster) underline how he's gay-friendly and that his image works good for gay votes and it would be good to use gays.
Another cynical approach from nazi-broadcaster.

greece
11th December 2015, 15:03
Finally a male singer from Russia. He is a great choice tho. He has a good voice and with a please god uptempo song he will probably hit top 5. I just hope they won't waste him with a peace ballad, honestly Polina was good and all but enough.

However the last time Russia send something similar *cough* 2011 *cough* they failed, so idrk I just hope they will do well this year

AlekS
11th December 2015, 15:03
Wondering how our STB/NTU jury votes esp after Russian police detained STB journalists.

LesterMalvo
11th December 2015, 15:13
I was wondering if we would have a change of emphasis from Russia next year. Love and peace works well for them when their narrative is one of Russians under attack from Western-funded Ukrainian Nazis, but when they're going after ISIS the narrative switches to one of war. In that case, switching to a male singer makes sense.

I'd love Sergey to bring the dancy pop of those videos to the Eurovision stage, but my money is on a ballad about fighting for what you believe in.

You can't directly blame government's acts on the broadcaster, can you?