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escYOUnited
2nd May 2015, 19:53
http://s27.postimg.org/io16d9i3n/FYRMACEDONIA.png

http://i.imgur.com/Z9p4sjj.jpg

::mk Kaliopi - Dona ::mk


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fd8WHhNWp4c

Kaliopi to represent Macedonia in 2016 (http://www.escunited.com/home/kaliopi-to-represent-macedonia-in-2016/)

Kaliopi Bukle (Macedonian: Калиопи Букле;, pronounced [kaliˈɔpi ˈbuklɛ], born 28 December 1966 in Ohrid), known professionally as Kaliopi, is a Macedonian singer-songwriter. In her career, Kaliopi has progressed from singing lead vocal with her eponymous band in 1980s Yugoslavia to being an established vocalist and composer working in Macedonia and across former Yugoslavia.

For the majority of 2011, Kaliopi was part the judging panel for the first edition of Macedonian Idol alongside fellow judges Igor D×ambazov and Toni Mihajlovski. Kaliopi released the songs "Ne e kraj na se" and "Se rodi den" with the finalists of the show:

On 19 November 2011, Macedonian Radio Television invited Kaliopi to represent Macedonia in the Eurovision Song Contest 2012 in Baku, Azerbaijan. Kaliopi performed the song "Crno i belo", with lyrics by Kaliopi and music by Romeo Grill. After a four-year pause, Kaliopi brought Macedonia again into the finals. The song qualified from the second semi-final on 24 May 2012 and was placed thirteenth in the final on 26 May 2012, scoring 71 points. Prior to her Eurovision performance, Kaliopi promoted the song in Serbia, Croatia, Bosnia and Herzegovina, Montenegro, the Netherlands, United Kingdom, Ukraine and Belarus.

The release of "Crno i Belo" also marked a renewed cooperation between Kaliopi and Romeo Grill after the twelve-year pause. Their collaboration continued following the Eurovision Song Contest and yielded the album "Melem". Kaliopi released the singles "Vučica", "Melem" and "Mrvica" to promote the album before and after its February 2013 release date.

On 24 November 2015, Macedonian Radio Television announced that they selected Kaliopi to represent Macedonia at the Eurovision Song Contest 2016 in Stockholm. The song that Kaliopi will perform at the 2016 contest, "Dona", was released on 7 March 2016.

Source: Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kaliopi)

AshleyWright
3rd May 2015, 13:56
Kaliopi should return with her mega hit "I love the Greece". xheat


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TVE7LQqS-4A


DA DAA DEE DAA OPA!

Mrm
8th May 2015, 21:54
Next year Ivona Jovanovic or Martinijan Kirilovski pleaseeee!!! xpray xlove xheart

Mimi
9th May 2015, 04:03
Next year Ivona Jovanovic or Martinijan Kirilovski pleaseeee!!! xpray xlove xheart

In this group I would include Filip Bozinovski too. Such small country like Macedonia and still has so many great talents (singers).

Filip Bozinovski 0:15 (4:22)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8TJQiqLIr-4

Ivona Jovanovic 0:20 (5:17)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5nS_Z63RQ3Y

Martinijan Kiriliovski


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=76wLmbNkc58

lavieenrose
9th May 2015, 04:23
Last year, I remember Tanja Carovska writing two solid entries (but singing one of them not too too well). I'd be thrilled to see her come back.

Oh wait no. Tamara.

Mrm
9th May 2015, 10:28
Mimi

Yes, these 3 are AMAZING! xlove xheart

Krishoes
2nd June 2015, 03:57
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TVE7LQqS-4A

This situation is... indescribable. I felt embarassed for that question and his arrogant behaviour. What a shame!

Mrm
5th June 2015, 11:54
Kaliopi should return with her mega hit "I love the Greece". xheat


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TVE7LQqS-4A


DA DAA DEE DAA OPA!

hahaahahaha yes the best hit EVER!!

xsing xsing xsing xsing
"I love the greek music
we are dancing with Greek music
in our weddings in Macedonia"

Charly
16th June 2015, 14:45
Can't we send Kaliopi again with Poželi and hold the 2017 Contest in Skopje?

Gabe
16th June 2015, 16:52
Kaliopi should return with her mega hit "I love the Greece". xheat


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TVE7LQqS-4A


DA DAA DEE DAA OPA!

I would prefer her other hit, 'I love the Bernice'

AshleyWright
16th June 2015, 16:57
I would prefer her other hit, 'I love the Bernice'

Both of them wondrous songs that Kaliopi gifted to us all. Either of them would be a great choice that would bring the contest to Macedonia.

lavieenrose
16th June 2015, 17:02
I would prefer her other hit, 'I love the Bernice'

With such beautiful lyricism as
"(screamed at an A5) MAAAAAAAAAAN
I love the Bernice,
While you go twerk,
I go to work (da da dee da…)
Pimps and hoes watch out,
I love the Bernice (da da dee da…)
MAAAAAAAAAAAAAN
("Ode to Joy" sample)
I love the Bernice
*diminished chord*"

vlatko
7th July 2015, 23:48
Tanja Carovska or Viktorija Loba :p

AshleyWright
8th July 2015, 01:21
Tanja Carovska or Viktorija Loba :p

Viktorija. xlove

vlatko
8th July 2015, 18:06
I think Loba is very good option for Macedonia. And she song be in russian and italian language.

lavieenrose
20th July 2015, 14:45
https://www.facebook.com/11489283394/photos/a.460463988394.257312.11489283394/10153540421838395/?type=1&theater That caption xheat

anto475
2nd September 2015, 00:28
Well if you look at 2014, Macedonia sent a very strong female soloist who had a bit of a crazy side, and in 2012, Macedonia sent a very strong female soloist who had a bit of a crazy side. So clearly next year they'll another very strong female soloist who had a bit of a crazy side!!

tuorem
2nd September 2015, 00:47
Well if you look at 2014, Macedonia sent a very strong female soloist who had a bit of a crazy side, and in 2012, Macedonia sent a very strong female soloist who had a bit of a crazy side. So clearly next year they'll another very strong female soloist who had a bit of a crazy side!!

They were clearly robbed in 2014. People said it was because of her underwhelming performance, well, I can't see what was wrong tbh.

blue00eyes
2nd September 2015, 08:25
They were clearly robbed in 2014. People said it was because of her underwhelming performance, well, I can't see what was wrong tbh.

Her performance was bad, really :( And her song wasn't a masterpiece tbh

LeBomb
2nd September 2015, 10:42
What are the chances Kaliopi returns next year?

http://i.ytimg.com/vi/rydVezxCoW8/maxresdefault.jpg

niko
2nd September 2015, 12:35
They were clearly robbed in 2014. People said it was because of her underwhelming performance, well, I can't see what was wrong tbh.

Her performance wasn't that great and let's be honest, the song wasn't that great too.

Mii11
6th September 2015, 18:03
Unfortunately, I have a feeling that FYR Macedonia may withdraw. I hope not :( Does anyone know whether there was some kind of statement from MRT regarding Eurovision? I know there will be Skopje Fest 2015 in November, but have MRT team actually mentioned Eurovision?

Stiven
6th September 2015, 18:35
Unfortunately, I have a feeling that FYR Macedonia may withdraw. I hope not :( Does anyone know whether there was some kind of statement from MRT regarding Eurovision? I know there will be Skopje Fest 2015 in November, but have MRT team actually mentioned Eurovision?

Well I just read their Skopje Fest 2015 news and it did not mention Eurovision. But I don't think that we will withdraw because MRT is a really unpopular channel( it's constantly parodied) and Eurovision is one of it's most popular programs so withdrawal will cost MRT a lot of money which they can't loose.

Mii11
6th September 2015, 18:40
Well I just read their Skopje Fest 2015 news and it did not mention Eurovision. But I don't think that we will withdraw because MRT is a really unpopular channel( it's constantly parodied) and Eurovision is one of it's most popular programs so withdrawal will cost MRT a lot of money which they can't loose.

Thank you for the information. It's good to hear that it's unlikely Macedonia will withdraw :)

Stiven
13th September 2015, 18:01
Okay we are in (unofficially for now):
http://www.dnevnik.mk/?ItemID=AD1D87CB6E8C584E84779E6FFB87F824
But SkopjeFest won't be our selection process our contestant will be chosen in a different way.

lavieenrose
13th September 2015, 18:06
Okay we are in (unofficially for now):
http://www.dnevnik.mk/?ItemID=AD1D87CB6E8C584E84779E6FFB87F824
But SkopjeFest won't be our selection process our contestant will be chosen in a different way.

Yayyyyyyyy!!!!

Internal Tamara Todevska selection as revenge for Skopje Fest 2014 xpray

tuorem
13th September 2015, 18:43
Okay we are in (unofficially for now):
http://www.dnevnik.mk/?ItemID=AD1D87CB6E8C584E84779E6FFB87F824
But SkopjeFest won't be our selection process our contestant will be chosen in a different way.

Well, it worked with Kaliopi, so why not. It will always be better than watching someone win the festival with a good song and then messing everything up before Eurovision starts (RIP Lisja Esenski).

Stiven
13th September 2015, 18:44
Ugh Guys Skopje Fest won't be our National Final in the interview our HoD said this(translated from Macedonian):

Skopje Fest and the Eurovision selection will be two separate projects on which MRT will focus on.

Lupus
13th September 2015, 19:01
Glad to see Macedonia will be there next year!

ZoboCamel
15th September 2015, 06:55
Well, it worked with Kaliopi, so why not. It will always be better than watching someone win the festival with a good song and then messing everything up before Eurovision starts (RIP Lisja Esenski).

I still mourn the potential that Macedonia threw away this year. :cry:

Seriously, I've got such a love-hate relationship with Macedonia in Eurovision. They always bring some kind of great idea or potential, have me willing to support them as a dark horse, and then inevitably screw something up, or just get a disappointing result.

Perhaps they could right one of their many past wrongs by giving another chance to Lozano - this time, without Esma?

tuorem
15th September 2015, 11:49
I still mourn the potential that Macedonia threw away this year. :cry:

Seriously, I've got such a love-hate relationship with Macedonia in Eurovision. They always bring some kind of great idea or potential, have me willing to support them as a dark horse, and then inevitably screw something up, or just get a disappointing result.

Perhaps they could right one of their many past wrongs by giving another chance to Lozano - this time, without Esma?

I agree 100%! Not only this year's act ended up ticking all the wrong boxes while the original song had so much potential, but Lozano was just a wasted talent in 2013. I enjoyed "Pred Da Se Razdeni" but I got the feeling he could do much more with a more suitable song. I don't get why they thought it was a good idea to gather these two artists :? one of them would have been way sufficient. If Lozano has a chance to comeback, I say yes right away!

PamSwynford
15th September 2015, 15:02
I would like to see this girl. And she would know how to find a song, since she's a big fan of Eurovision (and MZ :mrgreen: ).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9_wsE3BrDcE

lavieenrose
16th September 2015, 14:55
I would like to see this girl. And she would know how to find a song, since she's a big fan of Eurovision (and MZ :mrgreen: ).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9_wsE3BrDcE

Maybe the song's a bit slick, but I will never not be here for someone with non-human-colored hair shriek-singing "ECHO, ECHO, ECHO" in a thundering crash of heavy symbolism whilst contemporary dance occurs in the background. I love her already xheat xheat

Lupus
16th September 2015, 18:18
Flipping good song there! Most enjoyable indeed.

MakDok
13th November 2015, 18:19
ESC candidate:
KkZf-5hDhVo

Yazy
13th November 2015, 19:29
I know that this song might sound a bit old fashioned, but I really like the singer┤s voice. It┤s lovely.
Very suitable music for his voice.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9lZnsnbP2V0

Who knows, maybe he could fare well at ESC.

Mimimatz
16th November 2015, 15:26
What about the rumours of Kaliopi returning? any news?

ZoboCamel
17th November 2015, 06:46
Not sure if it's just a result of a small sample size, but I've loved the voices of almost every male vocalist from Macedonia in Eurovision recently - 2010, 2013 and 2015 were all some of my top vocalists of those years (let's just ignore 2011 for now :rolleyes:). Don't get me wrong, I welcome a great song whoever it's by - no complaints about Kaliopi - but there's always so much potential in their male vocalists, and they always end up failing due to some other reason. Gjoko's staging was a little weird in 2010, Lozano was saddled with Esma in 2013, and Daniel this year had his song wrecked by a rework.

I'm really hoping to finally see another great Macedonian singer pop up with a worthy song, and this time not have things ruined by the time it gets to the main Eurovision stage. I just want to see things finally go right for the country, cheer for them, and watch them enter the top 10!

tuorem
17th November 2015, 19:05
ZoboCamel Yes the revamped version of "Autumn Leaves" was not good, but you forgot to say that Daniel this year didn't sing very well either in Vienna, while Gjoko and Lozano were vocally perfect. Anyway, that's no surprise that Macedonia has great artists, but they have difficulties puttting everything together indeed, that's why it feels like most of their efforts are wasted in one way or another. And as they're naturally underrated, they aren't entitled to do any mistake.

Kaliopi qualified because everything was on point. I'm so hoping they'll get it right again next year xpray

FoxOfShadows
24th November 2015, 19:51
Kaliopi!? :D

anselm
24th November 2015, 19:51
YAAAASSSSS THE QUEEN IS GOING TO STOCKHOLM

lavieenrose
24th November 2015, 20:05
My queen. My everything. xheart xheart xheart

ESCPOLAND
24th November 2015, 20:06
This choice is better than a bad songs from Skopje Fest!: D

Lupus
24th November 2015, 20:07
Looking forwards to another amazing entry from the original Quen!

GRE
24th November 2015, 20:08
Her 2012 entry is one of the three best entries of ::mk
Moreover, it is in my all-time top-100 !

henhu
24th November 2015, 20:10
This is almost too good to be true xheart

tuorem
24th November 2015, 20:10
Is that real? :o I didn't see that coming xcheer xcheer Although I'm happy, I get the feeling they went for the last name that qualified. Macedonia has other promising artists, but if the song is already chosen, then it's ok.

I'll wait for the song, because Crno i Belo was perfect to me, so I hope the song won't be disappointing.

Carrie
24th November 2015, 20:11
Wow!! Welcome back to the final, ::mk

Can't wait to see more Kaliopi interviews.

nofuxCZ
24th November 2015, 20:14
oh myyyyyyyyy
is this real life??!?!?!?!?!?

YASSSSSSSSSS

Lupus
24th November 2015, 20:16
If this turns out to be the Macedonian equivalent of an April Fool's joke, I think the forum will be marching on Macedonia before the morrow...

ag89
24th November 2015, 20:16
Great news from Yugoslav countries today. ;)

AlekS
24th November 2015, 20:30
http://images.idiva.com/media/content/2014/Dec/10_signs_8.gif

*slowwwwly took money needed for ESC voting. Put 'em in a jar with "Eurovision fund" written on it*

Krishoes
24th November 2015, 20:35
Kaliopi xheart

http://rack.0.mshcdn.com/media/ZgkyMDEzLzA4LzEyL2YzL2Zpc3RwdW1wLmZlZWJmLmdpZgpwCX RodW1iCTEyMDB4OTYwMD4/80d8c90f/452/fist-pump.gif

EscGeek
24th November 2015, 20:39
cool! i hope the song will be similar to 2012

Alevender
24th November 2015, 20:47
Кaliopi! Fantastic news!!

Scooby
24th November 2015, 20:52
awesome news from our southern neighbours xyesxyesxyes

Sammy
24th November 2015, 20:56
She's amazing! Hopefully a strong entry. Time for Macedonia to get back into the final!

esc87fan
24th November 2015, 20:57
I loved her 2012 song! Great to have Bosnia back as well as Kaliopi representing Macedonia!

Yazy
24th November 2015, 21:01
Great news! xheart

Kaliopi speeding to Stockholm on lokomotiva.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=puhnd_7UzAY

DanielLuis
24th November 2015, 21:25
Queen Kaliopi is back xbow

blue00eyes
24th November 2015, 21:52
AAAAAAAAAAAAAA xjumpxfruitxyaaay
Awesome news I love Kaliopi. I want to hear her scream again.

Mii11
24th November 2015, 22:09
OMG! I'm so excited :D Dreams really do come true.

RainyWoods
24th November 2015, 22:15
http://i.imgur.com/EqQOTR9.jpg

This news.. my heart... can't breathexheat It's like christmas has come early. I can't believe that this extraordinary woman is coming back to Eurovision next year. Somebody pinch me. Already 2016>>>>>>>>>>>2015 without hearing a single song. Now for the Valentina return.

Lupus
24th November 2015, 22:16
Now for the Valentina return.

OMG yes please! In fact, maybe just have a year where we ONLY have the amazing returning artists!

nunaney
24th November 2015, 22:56
This is the most beautiful news. I love her and her style of songs so I'm sure I'll like her entry. I agree with RainyWoods that ESC 2016 is already better than 2015 because of this :D

ESCPOLAND
24th November 2015, 23:15
Cool news ;) I think she will sing in macedonian :D

Gera11
24th November 2015, 23:28
xfaint xfaint xfaint xfaint xfaint xfaint

http://mrwgifs.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/David-Tennant-Big-Grin-Smile-On-Doctor-Who-Reaction-Gif.gif

@lavieenrose (http://www.escunited.com/member.php?u=14007) how much money did you throw to the Macedonian broadcaster? xrofl2

lavieenrose
24th November 2015, 23:32
xfaint xfaint xfaint xfaint xfaint xfaint

http://mrwgifs.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/David-Tennant-Big-Grin-Smile-On-Doctor-Who-Reaction-Gif.gif

@lavieenrose (http://www.escunited.com/member.php?u=14007) how much money did you throw to the Macedonian broadcaster? xrofl2

Every mina of silver in the Broadcaster Bribery Fund, except, of course, for the section I have saved for Rezarta Smaja, Samanta Tina, and Jessika, as well as what I gave the German broadcaster to withdraw Xavier Naidoo and replace him with prog-rap sensation Friedrich Liechtenstein.

Lupus
24th November 2015, 23:40
Every mina of silver in the Broadcaster Bribery Fund, except, of course, for the section I have saved for Rezarta Smaja, Samanta Tina, and Jessika, as well as what I gave the German broadcaster to withdraw Xavier Naidoo and replace him with prog-rap sensation Friedrich Liechtenstein.

So we've found the REAL controller of Eurovision! Right here in our midst all along...

LeBomb
25th November 2015, 00:00
What are the chances Kaliopi returns next year?

http://i.ytimg.com/vi/rydVezxCoW8/maxresdefault.jpg

I wish I was this lucky all the time

Matt
25th November 2015, 00:03
That's exciting. I love her energy and her spirit. Can't wait to meet her. I don't know if picking her will be enough to qualify, we need a kickass song but I'm hopeful that she won't disappoint.

Lupus
25th November 2015, 00:05
That's exciting. I love her energy and her spirit. Can't wait to meet her. I don't know if picking her will be enough to qualify, we need a kickass song but I'm hopeful that she won't disappoint.

She's always struck me as someone who seems happiest when kicking ass!

tuorem
25th November 2015, 00:20
Guys, let's remember that amazing song, voice and performance that made Macedonia go to the final back in 2012 xheart Let's pray we'll have this time a song that is as great as this one. Sure thing is that we won't have to worry about vocals, she'll nail it!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vpYF_B_mAIw

It gives me chills every time I listen to it, and the audience that gradually gets into the song, that perfect high note before the last chorus.. xheat xlove

hunty73
25th November 2015, 00:35
That's exciting. I love her energy and her spirit. Can't wait to meet her. I don't know if picking her will be enough to qualify, we need a kickass song but I'm hopeful that she won't disappoint.

What's good Matt is she seems happier and healthier than iv ever seen her.After Baku she released some pretty poor songs and seemed to be half hearted and a bit drained.This year though she is back better than ever with some great new work like "POŽELI".Her delivery and vocals are 100% certain,she is a class act.We just need to hope she has a great song to go with them xpray

Franco
25th November 2015, 00:44
YAY for Kaliopi! That's fantastic news. xfruit

ZoboCamel
25th November 2015, 01:34
Woo! I'm not as much of a Kaliopi fan as some others on here but I'd still love to see here come back with another great song and finally give Macedonia a good result again. The same as a few others, I'm just praying that they've actually got a 10/10 song lined up rather than choosing her solely because of her previous performance xpray

sigi
25th November 2015, 14:57
omg.....Kaliopi xheart xheart

revallsay
25th November 2015, 15:11
I can't find any words to say, just this gif:

https://media.giphy.com/media/UIv1Dx8o4m8bC/giphy.gif

escmaster
25th November 2015, 15:27
Diva is back!

anto475
25th November 2015, 15:28
The queen of the Balkans returns!!!!!!!!!!

DiabloRoma
25th November 2015, 17:49
I can't find any words to say, just this gif:

https://media.giphy.com/media/UIv1Dx8o4m8bC/giphy.gif

Quirinus Quirrell :D (he's Raptor in the Italian translation)

CPV4931
25th November 2015, 19:46
So very happy with Kaliopi representing Macedonia :-) I like her personally and also was a fan of "Crno i Belo" in 2012.

And since nobody has posted it before, time again for a classic :-)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TVE7LQqS-4A

LesterMalvo
25th November 2015, 19:48
Macedonia is a risky country and Kaliopi is a respectful singer. I really like Kaliopi's work in 2012, from song to the way she represented her country with a strong stage performance. However, I kinda have fear. What if Kaliopi can't make it through the final? What if she ends up like Valentina Monetta did? I hope everything will be fine for her.

lavieenrose
25th November 2015, 20:43
So very happy with Kaliopi representing Macedonia :-) I like her personally and also was a fan of "Crno i Belo" in 2012.

And since nobody has posted it before, time again for a classic :-)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TVE7LQqS-4A

DA DA DEE DA. DA DA DEE DA. OPA! xheart

A-lister
25th November 2015, 21:25
Kaliopi was great in 2012 (which was the last great year in ESC) so I'm all for this choice xclap

Mrm
26th November 2015, 23:19
xbow xbow xbow

The best singer ever, so glad for the choice!!!

Terence
26th November 2015, 23:36
Welcome back Kaliopi! I must be in the minority who thinks that her 2012 entry is overrated but kudos for the vocals, native language and of course her crazy attitude! We share the same birthday too (random)

cegs5
26th November 2015, 23:48
Macedonia is a risky country and Kaliopi is a respectful singer. I really like Kaliopi's work in 2012, from song to the way she represented her country with a strong stage performance. However, I kinda have fear. What if Kaliopi can't make it through the final? What if she ends up like Valentina Monetta did? I hope everything will be fine for her.

It doesn't really matter if she qualifies, Kaliopi is Kaliopi with or without the Grand Final xcheer

QwaarJet
27th November 2015, 00:17
This is great news.

Nikkita
28th November 2015, 23:10
Another year full of class for Macedonia.

Stiven
29th November 2015, 17:42
Okay I just watched Kaliopi Stisni Play interview and here are the main things she said:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=99SzyDY0-gY
-She knows it's going to be an uphill battle to repeat Црно и Бело success (both at the charts and Eurovision) so she won't settle for a lesser song
-Romeo Gril will write the entry again.
-She won't be singing in English.
And to answer the people who made the ESC-United pod-cast yes Црно и Бело was in Kaliopi usual style.
And can somebody please edit out the news about Skopje-Fest being used to decide our 2016 entrant it's an eyesore!

tuorem
29th November 2015, 20:20
Yaaaaas! xyes Macedonian language coming to the party! xcheer

Ok, now this is getting interesting, I feared she wouldn't take into account the level of quality she brought to the contest in 2012. She won't go with an average song and rely only on her voice, that's good news because singers who come back usually think their name will guarantee a qualification and/or a good placing, and that's not true (Niamh Kavanagh, Chiara and Dana International come to my mind).

Stiven
29th November 2015, 21:14
Yaaaaas! xyes Macedonian language coming to the party! xcheer
Just a note she only said that she won't sing in English although I'm 99% sure that she will sing in Macedonian there is still that 1% chance that she may sing in an another language most likely Aromanian

Ok, now this is getting interesting, I feared she wouldn't take into account the level of quality she brought to the contest in 2012. She won't go with an average song and rely only on her voice, that's good news because singers who come back usually think their name will guarantee a qualification and/or a good placing, and that's not true (Niamh Kavanagh, Chiara and Dana International come to my mind).
Yes this was 90% of the interview. She was saying that she doesn't want to bring her country down and she will only take a song that gives her the same emotions that Црно и Бело gave her. Also she is aware that reaching the final is a hard task and that she is already working with her team to make sure that happens.
Although I was sceptical at first watching the interview restored my faith in Kaliopi since she is aware of the things you said and she isn't expecting a joy ride to the final.

Grinch
29th November 2015, 23:44
http://pjpies.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/2zpjxj7.gif

Krishoes
3rd December 2015, 05:05
I'm looking forward Mustard on Ya's entry.

lilka
10th December 2015, 21:20
I'm really happy it's her again, because "Crno i belo" is by far the best FYR Macedonian entry ever.

Johnny992
10th December 2015, 21:25
This woman will not let us down! When she promises that she will have a gooooood song, SHE WILL HAVE A GOOD SONG! :D

sharkan
15th December 2015, 17:42
Queen is back!

aletem
4th January 2016, 00:35
In a month and so we'll know the song.
http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n240/tupipak/new-york-knife-2_zps3fd894d7.gif

AuroraBorealis
15th January 2016, 00:09
I've been watching live Kaliopi performances, and despite not knowing a word of her language, she still manages to make an emotional and powerful performance every time. I actually genuinely love her, thank you eurovision for bringing me Kaliopi. I'll almost definitely be throwing at least a vote Macedonia's way. I'm so excited for what she will sing.

Hele.
15th January 2016, 00:12
I'm happy we will see Kaliopi again but it is sad to see Macedonia not trying anything other and only see Kaliopi as solution when they lose their way. xshrug To not be misunderstood, I love Kaliopi and I'm happy she is back again. Simply, Macedonia is not trying to find good song for another good performer.

PamSwynford
15th January 2016, 10:09
I'm happy we will see Kaliopi again but it is sad to see Macedonia not trying anything other and only see Kaliopi as solution when they lose their way. xshrug To not be misunderstood, I love Kaliopi and I'm happy she is back again. Simply, Macedonia is not trying to find good song for another good performer.

Eventhough, last year they sended a good artist, but they crapped it all with the performance and IMO, the Skopjefest version of the song was stronger than the final version. xshrug

ZoboCamel
19th January 2016, 12:09
Eventhough, last year they sended a good artist, but they crapped it all with the performance and IMO, the Skopjefest version of the song was stronger than the final version. xshrug

Yup. Lisja Esenski was in my personal top 5 and I'll never stop complaining about how the revamp put it down to around my #20. xsnooty

RomanFromRussia
19th January 2016, 19:52
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f3sr1chkVu0

rewatched this xheat xheat xheat

AlekS
25th January 2016, 11:57
yaaassss! We're in the same semi xheart
*starts saving money*

Stiven
25th January 2016, 15:58
Well we got a pretty satisfying semi final:
Many of neighbours are in:
::rs Serbia
::sl Slovenia
::bg Bulgaria
::al Albania

And most of our diaspora:
::ch Switzerland
::it Italy
::au Australia

However it all depends on the song because we can't depend on neighbours and diaspora alone and our diaspora only votes if we sent a satisfying song and good singer(covered) due to the Macedonian mentality (and they should continue to be like that)

Sammy
25th January 2016, 16:25
our diaspora only votes if we sent a satisfying song and good singer(covered) due to the Macedonian mentality (and they should continue to be like that)

Isn't that the way it should be in general when it comes to voting ?

Stiven
25th January 2016, 16:35
Isn't that the way it should be in general when it comes to voting ?

It should be but unfortunately many people in the diaspora vote for their home countries even when they hate the song or haven't heard it at all (Azrah in the Austrian NF is a perfect example of this)

Schlagerman1
25th January 2016, 16:46
I think that if people really dislike a song from the original home country, than they won't help it. Just look at Armenia and Turkey 2011, which easily would have qualify any other year, but just that year the diaspora from these two didn't help them to qualify. Also I believe that Azerbaijan stole the turkish diaspora that year. So you still need at least a decent song, otherwise even "your own" people can turn against you....

lavieenrose
25th January 2016, 16:56
[A-lister]Kaliopi first half actually worries me. If I know Bj÷rkman, he's going to put her in the #2 slot under the "she's not that commercial so she's just cannon fodder" principle.[/A-lister]

Mii11
25th January 2016, 22:24
Considering ::mk is sending one of the greatest Balkan artists Eurovision has ever seen and is in the same semi as ::al, ::rs, ::bg and ::sl I think it is safe to assume that we will see FYR Macedonia in the final :)

aletem
26th January 2016, 17:26
[A-lister]Kaliopi first half actually worries me. If I know Bj÷rkman, he's going to put her in the #2 slot under the "she's not that commercial so she's just cannon fodder" principle.[/A-lister]
Even if she ends up performing second or third (which I can see it happening), she's got this if she gets another good song. She performed 2nd in 2012 and blew everyone who came after her.

DanielLuis
26th January 2016, 18:06
Considering ::mk is sending one of the greatest Balkan artists Eurovision has ever seen and is in the same semi as ::al, ::rs, ::bg and ::sl I think it is safe to assume that we will see FYR Macedonia in the final :)

This is the exact same situation as 2012, only with ::al replacing ::hr!

MakDok
26th January 2016, 21:45
This is the exact same situation as 2012, only with ::al replacing ::hr!
Not fully though. In 2012 ::ba and ::tr were also in the same semi and helped her with 22 additional points.
If she only gets votes from the balkan countries, like in 2012, it wont be enough for qualification this time.

Mii11
26th January 2016, 22:37
Not fully though. In 2012 ::ba and ::tr were also in the same semi and helped her with 22 additional points.
If she only gets votes from the balkan countries, like in 2012, it wont be enough for qualification this time.

But there will be also ::au ::it and ::ch, in which there is relatively significant Ethnic Macedonian diaspora. I think she will be fine. :)

Mickey
27th January 2016, 20:14
Yeah, it's a really good draw. I make Lithuania the only one with a better draw in semi 2.

https://thankyoueurope.wordpress.com/2016/01/25/stats-corner-2016-semi-final-draw/

Uvaro
16th February 2016, 20:27
dona will be released on march 7th!
http://www.eurovision.tv/page/news?id=fyr_macedonia_kaliopis_song_premiere_on_7t h_march

Schlagerman1
16th February 2016, 20:33
SO DAMN EXCITED!!! :mrgreen:

QwaarJet
16th February 2016, 20:36
We have to wait much longer than expected... :(

lavieenrose
16th February 2016, 20:37
THAT ANNOUNCEMENT VIDEO xheat

Give me my life, Kaliopi, and slay literally everyone. I was wrong to remove you from my signature and doubt you. You are amazing; we love you.

GianlucaTomoe
16th February 2016, 20:42
What does "dona" mean?

QwaarJet
16th February 2016, 20:45
What does "dona" mean?

It means "I'm going to win Eurovision, because I'm awesome!"

Schlagerman1
16th February 2016, 20:46
What does "dona" mean?

Donna? (like in Primadonna?) Would fit her though xheat

John1
16th February 2016, 20:49
What does "dona" mean?

'Lady', I think.

GianlucaTomoe
16th February 2016, 20:50
Ok, I've just read that in Macedonian language "Dona" is just a name, not a word.

Mii11
16th February 2016, 21:07
Is she going to sing in Macedonian? Or maybe Aromanian?
EDIT: I haven't noticed that on the official website it says it will be in Macedonian

GianlucaTomoe
16th February 2016, 21:09
Ok, I've just read that in Macedonian language "Dona" is just a name, not a word.

Nevermind my previous post, I searched on Google Translate and I saw that it means "donna", which is a title or form of address for a woman (like "lady", "madame" etc.).

Mrm
16th February 2016, 21:11
I have an extremely good feeling!! xyes

EscGeek
16th February 2016, 21:15
I just hope it will be similar to her 2012 entry and not 1996 8-)

Stiven
16th February 2016, 21:18
Nevermind my previous post, I searched on Google Translate and I saw that it means "donna", which is a title or form of address for a woman (like "lady", "madame" etc.).

Actually we don't use Dona as a title it's just the Macedonian transliteration of the word Donna, I'm really curious how the song will turn out with a title like Dona.

John1
16th February 2016, 21:43
As Macedonia is often faithful to the SF2 (weakest semis in general), it may would be great for M. to sing without strong countries which are always qualified such as Greece/Russia/Bosnia and Herzegovina.........
Habits die hard as it's been said by somebody.

Dessi
16th February 2016, 23:18
I have an extremely good feeling!! xyes

And I have an extremely bad feeling... xwait

Mrm
16th February 2016, 23:26
And I have an extremely bad feeling... xwait

Why??????

Just because of waiting, or you dislike her as a singer and her previous esc entry and performance???

Dessi
16th February 2016, 23:34
Why??????

Just because of waiting, or you dislike her as a singer and her previous esc entry and performance???

Because of the LOOOOOONG wait... People tend to build up high expectations when they long for something... and then it just flops... :?

Mrm
16th February 2016, 23:39
Because of the LOOOOOONG wait... People tend to build up high expectations when they long for something... and then it just flops... :?

This can be truth, but in Kaliopi's case, I really doubt, believe me! She is an EXTRAORDINARY artist! ;) :)

And you liked her ESC entry "Crno i belo"??

Dessi
16th February 2016, 23:47
This can be truth, but in Kaliopi's case, I really doubt, believe me! She is an EXTRAORDINARY artist! ;) :)

And you liked her ESC entry "Crno i belo"??

Yes I loved her back in 2012. But this long wait...mmmm.... I don't know.

Mii11
16th February 2016, 23:54
Yes I loved her back in 2012. But this long wait...mmmm.... I don't know.

It is good to wait sometimes ;) Because of that, they now know what kind of songs have been chosen already and what kind of songs are in the preselections. Strategically speaking, this is important because they could choose a song that is more likely to stand out. Meanwhile, countries like ::ie cannot really do anything now (unless they change the song completely) and are likely to end up worse than ::mk

Dessi
17th February 2016, 00:04
It is good to wait sometimes ;) Because of that, they now know what kind of songs have been chosen already and what kind of songs are in the preselections. Strategically speaking, this is important because they could choose a song that is more likely to stand out. Meanwhile, countries like ::ie cannot really do anything now (unless they change the song completely) and are likely to end up worse than ::mk

Yeah, yeah... There are arguments and there are fallacy... and wishful thinking. But they've already chosen a song. Is it likely they'll change this? Really?

Mii11
17th February 2016, 00:20
Yeah, yeah... There are arguments and there are fallacy... and wishful thinking. But they've already chosen a song. Is it likely they'll change this? Really?

Well, in case of ::at 2014, Conchita had few songs to start with. They chose the best one based on what they have seen to be popular so far. A ballad was chosen, because it seemed to them that up-tempo song will not stand out in the semi-final. I suppose that's what it is good to wait and that is why some successful countries (::az and ::ru) wait so long to release their songs. Besides, someone could 'borrow' the idea.

Obviously it is not always the case. We don't know whether the song has been already made. We know the title and that Kaliopi is working on it. The title doesn't tell us much though. It may be a ballad or an up-tempo song. It may be a success or a complete disaster - but we won't know that for sure until 7th March.

AuroraBorealis
17th February 2016, 00:22
I'm sooo excited for Kaliopi's song! She's one of my all-time favourite ESC performers and I don't doubt she will be in my top 10 :D

Dessi
17th February 2016, 00:34
Well, in case of ::at 2014, Conchita had few songs to start with. They chose the best one based on what they have seen to be popular so far. A ballad was chosen, because it seemed to them that up-tempo song will not stand out in the semi-final. I suppose that's what it is good to wait and that is why some successful countries (::az and ::ru) wait so long to release their songs. Besides, someone could 'borrow' the idea.

Obviously it is not always the case. We don't know whether the song has been already made. We know the title and that Kaliopi is working on it. The title doesn't tell us much though. It may be a ballad or an up-tempo song. It may be a success or a complete disaster - but we won't know that for sure until 7th March.

Yeah, nothing of this is new. The things you say isn't making my hope higher unfortunately...It's just a way of wrap it up in cotton... A better way would have been to give us a song; like Italy. And then tell us that this song MAY be change to another one...

Mii11
17th February 2016, 00:50
Yeah, nothing of this is new. The things you say isn't making my hope higher unfortunately...It's just a way of wrap it up in cotton... A better way would have been to give us a song; like Italy. And then tell us that this song MAY be change to another one...

But then do you think every country should release song at the same time, as early as possible? Why is it only ::mk? :confused:
Russia will release their entry on 3rd March, Azerbaijan on 14th, Serbia has not even announced plans regarding their selection. And all of these countries are very successful. Do you think that their entry will be of poor quality as well just because they do not throw their song straight away, like Ireland did this year? It is usually the songs are selected later that do well. I mean if really the most disappointing songs were released at the end, then I doubt Austria would be that successful in 2014. I can't understand why you are so pessimistic. Beyond of that, have faith in Kaliopi, she is experienced performer. She hopefully knows what she is doing :)

Regarding Italy, back in 2014 they decided to pick the song internally, announced it early (I think it was January) and it was their worst result since returning. This year circumstances are a bit different (they intended to go the San Remo route originally).

Dessi
17th February 2016, 01:27
But then do you think every country should release song at the same time, as early as possible? Why is it only ::mk? :confused:
Russia will release their entry on 3rd March, Azerbaijan on 14th, Serbia has not even announced plans regarding their selection. And all of these countries are very successful. Do you think that their entry will be of poor quality as well just because they do not throw their song straight away, like Ireland did this year? It is usually the songs are selected later that do well. I mean if really the most disappointing songs were released at the end, then I doubt Austria would be that successful in 2014. I can't understand why you are so pessimistic. Beyond of that, have faith in Kaliopi, she is experienced performer. She hopefully knows what she is doing :)

Regarding Italy, back in 2014 they decided to pick the song internally, announced it early (I think it was January) and it was their worst result since returning. This year circumstances are a bit different (they intended to go the San Remo route originally).

PLEASE stay logical. Now you're all over the place... ;)
- First of all. Russia haven't even annonced a song, there IS NO titel, there is only an artist/singer. So YES that is a big difference. You can't argue that it's the same thing. But when a title has been presented THERE IS a bigger hunger for the song. And there isn't a song presented in the Russian camp.

- Kaliopi is a favourite; for me AND a lot of others. OFCOURSE the expectation is going to grow stronger than for someone you never heard about. Especially when you know the songs name.

- I have never said anything about "every country should release song at the same time"... What ever gave you that idea? I said that the long wait will build higher expectations of Kaliopis song (since there IS a song ready for her but not yet released), and with high expectations the risk of flopping is bigger than with low expectations...

Franco
17th February 2016, 09:38
It is good to wait sometimes ;) Because of that, they now know what kind of songs have been chosen already and what kind of songs are in the preselections. Strategically speaking, this is important because they could choose a song that is more likely to stand out. Meanwhile, countries like ::ie cannot really do anything now (unless they change the song completely) and are likely to end up worse than ::mk


It works both way.
A middle-of-the-road song revealed early may be surpassed by same level songs that are revealed later and are perceived as novelty.
On the other hand, a great song revealed early may quickly become a fan favourite and leave no room for late contenders.

Mii11
17th February 2016, 13:24
PLEASE stay logical. Now you're all over the place... ;)
- First of all. Russia haven't even annonced a song, there IS NO titel, there is only an artist/singer. So YES that is a big difference. You can't argue that it's the same thing. But when a title has been presented THERE IS a bigger hunger for the song. And there isn't a song presented in the Russian camp.

- Kaliopi is a favourite; for me AND a lot of others. OFCOURSE the expectation is going to grow stronger than for someone you never heard about. Especially when you know the songs name.

- I have never said anything about "every country should release song at the same time"... What ever gave you that idea? I said that the long wait will build higher expectations of Kaliopis song (since there IS a song ready for her but not yet released), and with high expectations the risk of flopping is bigger than with low expectations...

Just because they have a title, doesn't mean the song is finished. Similarly, Russian song may not have a title as of yet but it doesn't mean it hasn't be produced yet. We don't know that so I don't see the point in catastrophising.

Sergey Lazarov is hardly an unknown singer; he is definitely more famous than Kaliopi especially in Post-Soviet countries.

I got an impression that you don't see point in waiting. But we are waiting for many entries which have yet to be revealed. It is not only Kaliopi. Yes, the wait builds up the tension. The risk of flopping as a Fan favourite is perhaps big. However, the risk of flopping in the actual contest is not bigger: ultimately, most people will hear Kaliopi's song for the first time on 12th May.


It works both way.
A middle-of-the-road song revealed early may be surpassed by same level songs that are revealed later and are perceived as novelty.
On the other hand, a great song revealed early may quickly become a fan favourite and leave no room for late contenders.

That's true. However, so far we do not have any major fan favourites (maybe Spain but some people hate it) so there is no threat to Kaliopi. Obviously, there will be more acts revealed by 7th March so it may change. Hopefully, Kaliopi knows what she is doing. :)

Gera11
17th February 2016, 13:42
Dona...Noble xheat

aletem
18th February 2016, 05:47
The song will be a ballad and I can't wait for it to be released! xcheer

Scooby
18th February 2016, 14:03
Some journalists wrote that Dona is better than Rođeni/Bato. If that is true than..... xbowxbowxbow

AuroraBorealis
18th February 2016, 14:06
What is "Dona" in English? Google Translate doesn't seem to know :(

Scooby
18th February 2016, 14:08
What is "Dona" in English? Google Translate doesn't seem to know :(

I think its short form of Primadonna, maybe lady

Stiven
18th February 2016, 17:02
What is "Dona" in English? Google Translate doesn't seem to know :(

It's a transliteration of the Italian word Donna it's also used as a pet name.

r3gg13
18th February 2016, 19:22
Let there be a cameo of her signature scream xpray

Oshawott
1st March 2016, 02:07
It's a transliteration of the Italian word Donna it's also used as a pet name.

Yeah but I doubt that she'll sing about her pet dog. :')

Yazy
1st March 2016, 11:08
When I first saw the title, I instantly thought that the lyrics are going to be something in a style: "
I'm a diva! A magnificent diva!"

ESCada
2nd March 2016, 16:59
I read somewhere that someone that works in our local broadcaster said that the demo of the song sounds very dated and not up to par with her vocal abilities, just wanted to share this info.

I have my hopes up for Kaliopi, so let's see.

ESCada
6th March 2016, 19:28
With all the strange choices this year I truly believe it is time for my country to shine.

Come on Kaliopi, slay them mamma !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

::mk::mk::mk::mk

tuorem
6th March 2016, 19:35
With all the strange choices this year I truly believe it is time for my country to shine.

Come on Kaliopi, slay them mamma !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

::mk::mk::mk::mk

Sometimes, when entries aren't released yet, the song titles may give you a certain feeling, whether it's negative (Golden Boy, Fairytale Love) or positive (Love Injected, Hope Never Dies).

For "Dona", I have got a positive feeling, and I expect something both classy and fierce. :p Time will tell if that's what she went for.

ESCada
6th March 2016, 19:38
Sometimes, when entries aren't released yet, the song titles give you a certain feeling, whether it's negative (Golden Boy, Fairytale Love) or positive (Love Injected, Hope Never Dies).

For "Dona", I have got a positive feeling, and I expect something both classy and fierce. :p Time will tell if that's what she went for.


Tomorrow we will see,
the setting will be a high class restaurant and In a way she will try to make it seem like she is singing to her closest friends and fans.
It will be like a soire with Kaliopi and she is welcoming us in her house :lol:

Just hope the song is good enough.... I am keeping my fingers crossed :)

tuorem
6th March 2016, 19:42
Tomorrow we will see,
the setting will be a high class restaurant and In a way she will try to make it seem like she is singing to her closest friends and fans.
It will be like a soire with Kaliopi and she is welcoming us in her house :lol:

Just hope the song is good enough.... I am keeping my fingers crossed :)

Even though I adore Crno i Belo - and think it will be hard to top in my heart - I'm pretty confident about her new song :) I expect something very personal only her can rock.

ESCada
6th March 2016, 19:44
Even though I adore Crno i Belo - and think it will be hard to top in my heart - I'm pretty confident about her new song :) I expect something very personal only her can rock.

I want something out there, something unique and special ...... She needs to bring her A-game this time, since if there is ever a chance for a top 10 placing is this year.
Everyone seems to go left instead of right, and it is an opened field unlike 2012 ..... When we had a clear vision of how things stand.
I am hoping for something haunting, ethnic and very mysterious ..... Also I want a cameo of her high pitch in some way or form.

RainyWoods
6th March 2016, 19:45
This is the moment i've been waiting for all year. I just cannot wait for the song reveal. Even when this Eurovision year was looking dire for my tastes, I was saying to myself "But Kaliopi is coming, come on!". I think she's the greatest artist ever to have performed on the Eurovision stage. Both "Crno i belo" and "Samo ti" would win a place in my top 10 Eurovision songs of all time list. She's a legend. The most down to earth diva. I'm sure "Dona" will be incredible. Kaliopi could sing the phone book and it would be epic even. Go Macedoniaxheat

John1
6th March 2016, 19:45
Come on Kaliopi, slay them all. xbow

ESCada
6th March 2016, 19:49
This is the moment i've been waiting for all year. I just cannot wait for the song reveal. Even when this Eurovision year was looking dire for my tastes, I was saying to myself "But Kaliopi is coming, come on!". I think she's the greatest artist ever to have performed on the Eurovision stage. Both "Crno i belo" and "Samo ti" would win a place in my top 10 Eurovision songs of all time list. She's a legend. The most down to earth diva. I'm sure "Dona" will be incredible. Kaliopi could sing the phone book and it would be epic even. Go Macedoniaxheat

WOW

If I ever see her again, I will tell her she has a strong support from all over Europe.
I've been to her house once for coffee, since my friend is her niece ...... Gave me a cd and all, that is why I want her to do well .... She is awesome !!!!!!!!

Lupus
6th March 2016, 19:51
Kaliopi could sing the phone book and it would be epic even. Go Macedoniaxheat

If she did, she wouldn't be the first... ;)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hn66jv_pRmk

tuorem
6th March 2016, 19:56
I want something out there, something unique and special ...... She needs to bring her A-game this time, since if there is ever a chance for a top 10 placing is this year.
Everyone seems to go left instead of right, and it is an opened field unlike 2012 ..... When we had a clear vision of how things stand.
I am hoping for something haunting, ethnic and very mysterious ..... Also I want a cameo of her high pitch in some way or form.


This, this, this, this, this, this, and this!

http://38.media.tumblr.com/f2d94a096c074c1674484533a1a41f47/tumblr_inline_n5etc4sMrq1qas9c0.gif

RainyWoods
6th March 2016, 20:07
WOW

If I ever see her again, I will tell her she has a strong support from all over Europe.
I've been to her house once for coffee, since my friend is her niece ...... Gave me a cd and all, that is why I want her to do well .... She is awesome !!!!!!!!

Oh my gosh, that's amazing! She's such a lovely lady. Back in 2012 I uploaded a short cover of her entry to youtube and Kaliopi actually sent me a beautiful, rather long private message, telling me how touched she was by it and what the song meant to her. It was quite a surreal message to receive and really moved me. She's just such a special artist. I love particularly two impromptu performances she did for esctoday of her ESC entries. It was these videos that helped me to fall in love with her and made me realize just how beautiful and raw an artist she is. Watching them almost brings tears to me eyes.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fWLc49Ncu2Q

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5yLopGRc5Ns

tuorem
6th March 2016, 20:23
RainyWoods I watched these videos back in 2012 and it's incredible how they still give me chills. Somehow it makes me regret that Eurovision isn't about live music anymore. Kaliopi is unique xheart Not that that I would love all Eurovision entries to be acoustic, but Crno i Belo with only a piano and her voice would have been awesome too at the Crystal Hall.

ESCada
6th March 2016, 20:28
Oh my gosh, that's amazing! She's such a lovely lady. Back in 2012 I uploaded a short cover of her entry to youtube and Kaliopi actually sent me a beautiful, rather long private message, telling me how touched she was by it and what the song meant to her. It was quite a surreal message to receive and really moved me. She's just such a special artist. I love particularly two impromptu performances she did for esctoday of her ESC entries. It was these videos that helped me to fall in love with her and made me realize just how beautiful and raw an artist she is. Watching them almost brings tears to me eyes.




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fWLc49Ncu2Q

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5yLopGRc5Ns

Would love to hear your cover !!!!! Indeed she is incredible .... Kaliopi Love !!!!!

RainyWoods
6th March 2016, 20:35
RainyWoods I watched these videos back in 2012 and it's incredible how they still give me chills. Somehow it makes me regret that Eurovision isn't about live music anymore. Kaliopi is unique xheart Not that that I would love all Eurovision entries to be acoustic, but Crno i Belo with only a piano and her voice would have been awesome too at the Crystal Hall.

I turned the videos into mp3 files and took them with me everywhere:lol: I think I ended up listening to that version of "Crno i belo" more than the studio recording even.

It makes me wish as well for live music. I don't understand how hard it would be for someone who just wants to come out and play the piano or their guitar, why they shouldn't be allowed to do it. Live music would also attract artists that would otherwise stay away from the contest. If someone wants to play live then they should have the choice to. It's very difficult for me to take seriously those who come on stage with ultra serious songs, pretending to play their instruments.

lavieenrose
6th March 2016, 20:37
I turned the videos into mp3 files and took them with me everywhere:lol: I think I ended up listening to that version of "Crno i belo" more than the studio recording even.

It makes me wish as well for live music. I don't understand how hard it would be for someone who just wants to come out and play the piano or their guitar, why they shouldn't be allowed to do it. Live music would also attract artists that would otherwise stay away from the contest. If someone wants to play live then they should have the choice to. It's very difficult for me to take seriously those who come on stage with ultra serious songs, pretending to play their instruments.

But...
http://justanotherlight.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/Tinkara-Kovac-Eurovision-Song-Contest-Rehearsals-y00C5ae3dw_l.jpg

tuorem
6th March 2016, 21:57
lavieenrose You should spare Tinkara as she repeated several times she wanted the orchestra back. :D And she asked if she could play the flute during her performance, but her request was rejected :?

lavieenrose
6th March 2016, 21:58
lavieenrose You should spare Tinkara as she repeated several times she wanted the orchestra back. :D And she asked if she could play the flute during her performance, but her request was rejected :?

I fear that I may have been misconstrued. Tinkara and her flute are ICONIC, truly underrated and amazing in every way. I'm only worried about the world that RainyWoods presents because it means no more piss-taking from glorious beings like Tinkara.

GWTW1939
6th March 2016, 22:04
lavieenrose You should spare Tinkara as she repeated several times she wanted the orchestra back. :D And she asked if she could play the flute during her performance, but her request was rejected :?

I don't understand why they can't make it optional for countries who may want it. Not many probably but still at least let it be an option xshrug

If they can bend over backwards and give Sweden extra time for their gimmick stage shows then other countries should be given a little extra for a live orchestra. It would certainly make things more interesting naturally then the contrived shit the EBU have been doing all in name of making the show more "exciting" :rolleyes:

tuorem
6th March 2016, 22:11
I don't understand why they can't make it optional for countries who may want it. Not many probably but still at least let it be an option xshrug

If they can bend over backwards and give Sweden extra time for their gimmick stage shows then other countries should be given a little extra for a live orchestra. It would certainly make things more interesting then the contrived shit the EBU have been doing all in name of making the show more "exciting" :rolleyes:

Honestly, I don't know either xthink I guess they don't want to bother getting into additional logistic considerations, since it wouldn't be worth having an orchestra if only a few countries would be willing to use it. On the contrary, if the orchestra was reintroduced for everyone, they would probably say it may hurt "modern" music (aka Swedish pop :D), so some would be favored, and some not xshrug

As for Tinkara, it's even more silly. I mean she could play the flute in front of her microphone like she did during the national final. But I guess rules are rules, or maybe they feared it would represent a major advantage for her. :lol:

popavapeur
6th March 2016, 22:12
i'm waiting for Kaliopi, like really. I really liked Crno I Belo. I loved 2014, hated 2015 so 2016 is surely the one i will like.

aletem
6th March 2016, 22:13
So tomorrow is the presentation! xcheer Do not compare "Dona" to "Crno i belo". I believe "Dona" is a ballad and we actually need a ballad in this year of plain and mediocre midtempo songs. This week was pretty bad with all the choices and songs (worst ESC yet in the past 10 years I would say), so with not much competition as in 2012, hopefully the song will grant Macedonia the best ever result and revenge for her not being in the top10 4 years ago.
Looking forward to hear it! :mrgreen:

Mrm
6th March 2016, 22:22
Whatever it is, I believe it will be a GEM, please Kaliopi recover my ears this season, I beg you! xpray

GWTW1939
6th March 2016, 22:32
Tomorrow can't come fast enough! Go Kaliopi xcheer

http://i.imgur.com/eLbv92I.gif

QwaarJet
7th March 2016, 00:58
If Kaliopi is a let-down, we'll need hospitals on stand-by for mass bridge-jumpings. She is one of my last hopes. I agree we need a ballad, but it needs to be a ballad with a punch.

ZoboCamel
7th March 2016, 01:34
If I ever see her again, I will tell her she has a strong support from all over Europe.

And even outside of Europe... xheart

RomanFromRussia
7th March 2016, 07:06
Cannot wait for the presentation xheat

ZoboCamel
7th March 2016, 10:32
Back in 2012 I uploaded a short cover of her entry to youtube and Kaliopi actually sent me a beautiful, rather long private message, telling me how touched she was by it and what the song meant to her

I don't suppose you'd be able to link that for all of our listening pleasure? I always love seeing covers made by the fan community, especially when it's not just from some anonymous YouTube channel.

ParadiseES
7th March 2016, 10:41
Can't wait for this!!!!! :D

I really hope Kaliopi has finally a song that does justice to her, unlike "Crno i belo" and "Samo ti".

Fierro
7th March 2016, 10:44
This night I had dream where heard Kaliopi's song. This. is. amazing. I think she can even win with it.

ESCada
7th March 2016, 12:02
This night I had dream where heard Kaliopi's song. This. is. amazing. I think she can even win with it.


Imagine that?
If that happens everyone stays at my house next year !!!!!!!!!!

revallsay
7th March 2016, 16:32
When will we have this gem?

RainyWoods
7th March 2016, 16:37
When will we have this gem?

The presentation show is tonight at 20:15 CETxheat

revallsay
7th March 2016, 16:51
The presentation show is tonight at 20:15 CETxheat

I've got my opera then! I'll have to listen to it when it ends, I guess.

RainyWoods
7th March 2016, 17:06
I've got my opera then! I'll have to listen to it when it ends, I guess.

You would choose the the opera over Kaliopi?

http://refinersfire.us/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/looney-tunes-still-of-elmer-fudd-and-bugs-bunny-in-whats-opera-doc-658x325.jpg

tuorem
7th March 2016, 17:17
So, Macedonia is currently 27th in the odds. We'll see how gamblers will react to the song :)

QwaarJet
7th March 2016, 17:45
So, Macedonia is currently 27th in the odds. We'll see how gamblers will react to the song :)

It's Macedonia sending a song in Macedonian. The betting market will likely have little to no reaction at all.

John1
7th March 2016, 17:53
It's Macedonia sending a song in Macedonian. The betting market will likely have little to no reaction at all.

The same kind of things happened with Serbia which sent a song in Serbian, and they won.
It doesn't matter if you send a song in a language which nobody understands, whichever it is.

RainyWoods
7th March 2016, 17:57
The same kind of things happened with Serbia which sent a song in Serbian, and they won.
It doesn't matter if you send a song with a language that nobody understand, whichever it is.

That was nine years ago. The contest has changed a lot in that time unfortunately. Of course, it's still very possible to do well with a song in native tongue, but there's a lot going against those that choose to do so.

QwaarJet
7th March 2016, 18:01
That was nine years ago. The contest has changed a lot in that time unfortunately. Of course, it's still very possible to do well with a song in native tongue, but there's a lot going against those that choose to do so.

Was going to respond myself, but I'll let my wise friend's words here speak for themselves.

John1
7th March 2016, 18:07
That was nine years ago. The contest has changed a lot in that time unfortunately. Of course, it's still very possible to do well with a song in native tongue, but there's a lot going against those that choose to do so.

If either Polina did sing in Russian or Mans sang 'Heroes' in Swedish, they could still have pretended to the victory.
There is no point of 'years' because of the appeal of the song which wouldn't have changed a lot, it'd have even increased imo.

GWTW1939
7th March 2016, 18:09
I agree with RainyWoods but I think "Moltiva" would have been a contender for victory no matter what year it was because I personally think its that good. It transcended the language barrier that the few native language entries of the last few years have not (except Serbia 2012). I think "Grande amore" might be the last gasp of breath for native entries being big contenders for a long time unless another rises to that level soon.

QwaarJet
7th March 2016, 18:11
If either Polina did sing in Russian or Mans sang 'Heroes' in Swedish, they could still have pretended to the victory.
There is no point of 'years' because of the appeal of the song which wouldn't have changed a lot, it'd have even increased imo.

If Polina or Mans had sung in their native language we would be in a lovely Italian city in early May. And for Italy it was because they were singing in Italian, and a freaking OPERA SONG in Italian. It just sounds right. Singing a pop song in Swedish or Russian...not exactly a vote grabber.

RainyWoods
7th March 2016, 18:14
If either Polina did sing in Russian or Mans sang 'Heroes' in Swedish, they could still have pretended to the victory.
There is no point of 'years' because of the appeal of the song which wouldn't have changed a lot, it'd have even increased imo.

Yes, never mind the fact they'd probably lose about half of their support from Western Europe. There's a reason why we only have four or five songs each year performed not in English.

GWTW1939
7th March 2016, 18:16
Sweden can get away with anything these days, even singing in Swedish, their untouchable to the EBU. Russia cannot no matter how brilliant Polina was, there are too many extra factors.

John1
7th March 2016, 18:21
Yes, never mind the fact they'd probably lose about half of their support from Western Europe. There's a reason why we only have four or five songs each year performed not in English.

Indeed, yet it's getting disappointing because of the lack of songs in other languages than English one.
However, I'm getting used to hearing many English songs in this contest, that's not something that I could blame. Singers are able to sing in whatever language they want to, even so this'd be more fair for countries which are always sending songs in their native tongue, such as France or Portugal or Italy.

RomanFromRussia
7th March 2016, 19:39
Where's all the hype? There should be wild crowd! HAIL THE QUEEN PLS.

RainyWoods
7th March 2016, 19:46
Rumour has it that something life changing is about to happen around these parts. Did I hear correctly?

John1
7th March 2016, 19:48
Dona will bring the quality at a higher level than it is so far.

Dessi
7th March 2016, 19:52
Gaaaaahhh... time seems to go excruciatingly slowly tonight..... :? xwait

RainyWoods
7th March 2016, 19:53
Pre "Dona" reveal rave, courtesy of "Crno i belo (Remix)". Get hyped. Prepare your bodies. The legend is arriving to save us all.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4VOMyhIQ3tE

Lupus
7th March 2016, 19:53
This Eurovision season's about to come alive! :D

AshleyWright
7th March 2016, 19:54
Has the Dona kebab arrived yet?


http://paragonqualityfoods.com/x/img/uploads/Paragon-Turkish-Best-Doner.jpg


edit: this kebab needs Garlic sauce.

RainyWoods
7th March 2016, 19:56
Has the Dona kebab arrived yet?


http://paragonqualityfoods.com/x/img/uploads/Paragon-Turkish-Best-Doner.jpg

Just under 20 minutes until our meal of the century.

AshleyWright
7th March 2016, 19:57
Just under 20 minutes until our meal of the century.

Link me please King Rainy of Woods


https://ssatf.files.wordpress.com/2015/01/preach-12.jpg

John1
7th March 2016, 19:58
Just let us thinking about the very possible first victory of the Former Yougoslav Republic of Macedonia in the ESC.
I bet it'll be amazing!

RainyWoods
7th March 2016, 19:59
Link me please King Rainy of Woods


https://ssatf.files.wordpress.com/2015/01/preach-12.jpg


http://play.mrt.com.mk/epg/linear/3551 xheat

AshleyWright
7th March 2016, 20:00
http://play.mrt.com.mk/epg/linear/3551 xheat

WOAH, OPENING ONTO A KALIOPI INTERVIEW. What a moment to open.

RainyWoods
7th March 2016, 20:00
OH MY GOSH, she's being interviewed already on the news! QUICK!

RomanFromRussia
7th March 2016, 20:00
SLAY THIS YEAR MY DARLING! SLAY IT ALL! XHEAT

Lupus
7th March 2016, 20:01
Missing the English translation! :p Cannot wait for the song though! xheat

John1
7th March 2016, 20:02
You're all getting insane here...
As Margaret would've said to us: 'Cool yourselves down' xqueenbitch

RainyWoods
7th March 2016, 20:04
http://i.imgur.com/mJRurt9.png

AshleyWright
7th March 2016, 20:06
Excuse me? Why was the Kaliopi interview not a full 15 minutes, followed by her entry on repeat for the next hour? Now we must suffer this sports atrocity.

Stiven
7th March 2016, 20:07
Okay before the song is announced I just wanted to post my favourite Kaliopi songs (Excluding her Eurovision related songs):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oTKdIBFT_Xw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yshcDwe8hjc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KtG_CcNJfaE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ckk3J7kNWt4

RomanFromRussia
7th March 2016, 20:08
Excuse me? Why was the Kaliopi interview not a full 15 minutes, followed by her entry on repeat for the next hour? Now we must suffer this sports atrocity.

We should make new macedonian handball team!

hunty73
7th March 2016, 20:09
http://i.imgur.com/mJRurt9.png

Looks happier and more healthy than she has for years.Obvious she is in a very good place in her life.Hope her song does her amazing talent justice.

AshleyWright
7th March 2016, 20:09
We should make new macedonian handball team!

I'm having the entire team assassinated and that sports presenter deported for interrupting the Kaliopi interview. Hopefully a new team will know better.

lavieenrose
7th March 2016, 20:11
My class just finished; what iconic moments did I miss?

Lupus
7th March 2016, 20:11
Where is the Lady of our Hearts?! Bloody sports things... :p

Lupus
7th March 2016, 20:12
My class just finished; what iconic moments did I miss?

Sports mostly...

lavieenrose
7th March 2016, 20:12
Sports mostly...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2fraSdN-PG8

GlamSIMorous
7th March 2016, 20:13
Bring it on Miss Queen Kaliopi xbow

RainyWoods
7th March 2016, 20:14
My class just finished; what iconic moments did I miss?

You missed a hot news interview with the legend. The show is just about to start thoughxheart

lavieenrose
7th March 2016, 20:14
The woman in that ad was kind of giving me Kaliopi first rehearsal 2012 realness.

lavieenrose
7th March 2016, 20:15
Macedonian House of Cards xheat The Macedonian population is lucky to be getting it xheart

Lupus
7th March 2016, 20:16
Now the weather... WE DON'T NEED WEATHER WE NEED KALIOPI!!!!

lavieenrose
7th March 2016, 20:17
"And here's a map of the countries we're about to slay."
https://scontent-lga3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xap1/v/wl/t35.0-12/10658548_10207402247485956_770303128136861134_o.jp g?oh=85979f37d32cb2b69c85af7e2ebbefbe&oe=56DF703A

AshleyWright
7th March 2016, 20:17
So They wont Slay Australia and Iceland?

RainyWoods
7th March 2016, 20:17
Goth weather ladyxheatxheart

ParadiseES
7th March 2016, 20:18
Just joined the stream! Glad there is gonna be nice weather in Macedonia xcheer

Lupus
7th March 2016, 20:18
So They wont Slay Australia and Iceland?

It's not a map of ALL the countries she's going to slay.

lavieenrose
7th March 2016, 20:18
So They wont Slay Australia and Iceland?

You make a good point. How could they be so rude as not to zoom out to allow the entire world to be seen?

AshleyWright
7th March 2016, 20:19
You make a good point. How could they be so rude as not to zoom out to allow the entire world to be seen?

Should be a map of the universe.

RainyWoods
7th March 2016, 20:19
Hold me someone, I can't breathe. It's happening.

Lupus
7th March 2016, 20:19
OMG OMG HERE WE GO!!! :D xheat xlove

tsegaye
7th March 2016, 20:19
So They wont Slay Australia and Iceland?

Nor Azerbaijan, Israel and Armenia. It's a five horse race this year.

lavieenrose
7th March 2016, 20:20
Should be a map of the universe.

It should indeed. The more you talk about it, the more flawed this map seems. xthink

RainyWoods
7th March 2016, 20:20
Ding dong nada da da daaaaa nnananana yeeeeeaaaahh ding dong nannananan yeeeeeeeaaaaahh

Lupus
7th March 2016, 20:20
Now all she needs is a chap with a red book... "Kaliopi; This Is Your Life!"

RainyWoods
7th March 2016, 20:21
She's presenting her own damn song reveal. Icon.

ParadiseES
7th March 2016, 20:21
Ding dong nada da da daaaaa nnananana yeeeeeaaaahh ding dong nannananan yeeeeeeeaaaaahh

Thank God. For a moment I thought that was the real entry and I was like WTF I WANT MY MONEY BACK.

tsegaye
7th March 2016, 20:21
She's even holding her own presentation show. This woman is amazing.

RomanFromRussia
7th March 2016, 20:22
WOAH xheat

Lupus
7th March 2016, 20:22
Is there anything she cannae do?!

AshleyWright
7th March 2016, 20:22
That hip bump. xheat