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escYOUnited
2nd May 2015, 19:46
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::hr Nina Kraljić - Lighthouse ::hr


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UGQlYSC9NGk

Meet & Greet:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3N_T28R0jjg

Nina Kraljić is a Croatian singer, born on 1 January 1992 in Lipovljani, a small municipality near to the border with Bosnia & Herzegovina. Her career began in 2009 when she finished 10th in Croatia's version of the popular Got Talent international series of programming. She participated in and won the inaugural season of The Voice of Croatia. Her debut single, "Zaljuljali smo svijet" was released in June 2015 following her victory. Nina was long rumoured to be in the running to represent Croatia on their return since her participation in The Voice.

Tinchey
2nd May 2015, 23:01
CROATIA 2016 - Nina Kraljić - Screaming my way to the top :)

Matt
2nd May 2015, 23:03
Croatia is the country I want to visit the most so I just need them back for that and win the contest.

Tinchey
2nd May 2015, 23:13
Croatia is the country I want to visit the most so I just need them back for that and win the contest.

That would be great but we don't really have an artist that could win... and I really mean it. ^^ I'd like a final for a start.
As for my wishes, Natali Dizdar is by far my first choice followed by Nipplepeople and Lovely Quinces.

Hele.
3rd May 2015, 17:30
There were some rumors that Croatia already in 2015. should send winner of The Voice at Eurovision. But that didn't happen as The Voice was late. But, first season of The Voice Croatia just finished few days ago and they are already announcing new season (should happen by the end of this year), so I really believe there is chance to look winner of The Voice at eurovision stage next year. Actually, it was already written in this newspapers (and Jutarnji is relevant paper in Croatia, it is not that they will write something wrong that easily).
http://www.jutarnji.hr/the-voice-za-najskuplji-show-htv-a-prijavilo-se-vise-od-1000-ljudi/1225371/
But if you ask me, of course, if Croatia is back, I wouldn't have anything against to see winner of this, first season of The Voice at eurovision. Nina Kraljić is just amazing and her mentor Jacques Houdek, but her colleagues from The Voice told that they owuld like to see her at eurovision stage.
http://www.tportal.hr/magazin/estrada/379357/Finalisti-o-Nini-Voljeli-bi-je-vidjeti-na-Eurosongu.html


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EKCizY2M1no


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gh0cKKfYVEM

Tinchey
4th May 2015, 01:23
but her colleagues from The Voice told that they owuld like to see her at eurovision stage.
http://www.tportal.hr/magazin/estrada/379357/Finalisti-o-Nini-Voljeli-bi-je-vidjeti-na-Eurosongu.html


Oh I had no idea about this... :D hmm seems like they have been talking about it with the producers. :o First we need to wait and see what direction she chooses in her career. I personally think she should stick with the mellow slightly alternative pop, that's where she's acing. Although I can't digest her voice I think she would be a perfect choice for ESC, not sure who should be the composer though. Anyway this actually makes me wanna apply for the Voice... seems so tempting, unfortunately I don't have a voice. :'D

majazelmerlow
4th May 2015, 15:14
I am from Croatia and I don't like Nina Kraljic.Maybe she's good choice and voice,but we would get underrated because we don't have lot of negibhourgs.Croatia have some good songs and singers who I really'd love to see on ESC.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SIAEVxK-2IY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XLLgtlwj3aA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UWnZyBjm5PY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ByXpHgy7YYg (I'd really love to see him)

Krishoes
4th May 2015, 16:18
Colonia? Hope not. We already had Tijana last year.

Tinchey
4th May 2015, 16:27
I am from Croatia and I don't like Nina Kraljic.Maybe she's good choice and voice,but we would get underrated because we don't have lot of negibhourgs.

What?! xhmm

Seraphim
5th May 2015, 12:59
I don't think we'll see Croatia back next year! :/ :(

Schlagerman1
5th May 2015, 21:59
I am from Croatia and I don't like Nina Kraljic.Maybe she's good choice and voice,but we would get underrated because we don't have lot of negibhourgs.


You have got quite many neighbours and/or friends in Eurovision, you have just been pretty bad in picking songs to Eurovision the latest years (of the ones from 2004 and forward I only liked 2004 and 2007 tbh). Though I might agree that Nina Kraljic isn't perfect, I feel she is a bit old-fashioned and really need the right song to do herself justice.

vatroslav_cro
5th May 2015, 23:25
HRT won't broadcast the ESC this year at all (semifinals nor final) for the first time in history........so we are totally "out" it seems.

Verjamem
6th May 2015, 01:58
HRT won't broadcast the ESC this year at all (semifinals nor final) for the first time in history........so we are totally "out" it seems.
Of course, Croatia's return in 2016 sounds now like a science fiction, but it's not ruled out because of not broadcasting this year contest. A lot of countries came back without it - Italy, Austria, Poland, Czech Rep......

lowyby
6th May 2015, 09:27
Of course, Croatia's return in 2016 sounds now like a science fiction, but it's not ruled out because of not broadcasting this year contest. A lot of countries came back without it - Italy, Austria, Poland, Czech Rep......

Indeed, it could be that they just think they better don't broadcast it if they don't participate in it.. But it's still a little sour...

Terence
6th May 2015, 22:42
Oh come on, why all this sudden change of attitude?!

I miss Croatia, they have given a lot to the contest and whilst they did go downhill post-2006, they did at least stay true to their language & culture!

Yazy
7th May 2015, 01:38
Oh come on, why all this sudden change of attitude?!

I miss Croatia, they have given a lot to the contest and whilst they did go downhill post-2006, they did at least stay true to their language & culture!


They probably think that bad results will lead to decline of views and ratings or something like that, so they decided not to bother promoting ESC.

I find that to be utter nonsense, as everyone claims that ESC is one of the most viewed stuff on HRT, despite the fact that we are not being successful.

Terence
7th May 2015, 15:17
Bad results, bad results...

just look at Austria, or the Netherlands last year! Not saying they'll do as well this year but at least interest is higher than it was 2-3 years ago.

Schlagerman1
7th May 2015, 17:05
Bad results, bad results...

just look at Austria, or the Netherlands last year! Not saying they'll do as well this year but at least interest is higher than it was 2-3 years ago.

I agree, I mean, I am 100% sure that absolutely noone thought Austria would host the contest 10 years later, when they sent this madness in 2005...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dB8Jjuue3S4

Yazy
7th May 2015, 18:20
Well, the difference is that our team for eurovision is not motivated at all. Yes, they would like to witness good results, but they donīt even wanna put the slightest drop of sweat in order to achieve that. Pure laziness.


https://youtu.be/aM1pD-QW7pA

Not sure if you had already seen this video, but this pretty much displays the attitude that we are discussing here.

GRE
10th May 2015, 12:12
I agree, I mean, I am 100% sure that absolutely noone thought Austria would host the contest 10 years later, when they sent this madness in 2005...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dB8Jjuue3S4

I liked that !

EscGeek
14th May 2015, 19:00
Elemental please xpray

or at least come back...Tinkara could've been 24th if you were there:p

EscTombo
15th May 2015, 19:27
http://www.escunited.com/home/croatia-planning-to-return-in-2016/

I hope they return with Severina :D
She was great!

vatroslav_cro
19th May 2015, 21:02
http://www.escunited.com/home/croatia-planning-to-return-in-2016/

I hope they return with Severina :D
She was great!

God forbid!

Yazy
20th May 2015, 13:18
Agree. She canīt sing for crap. Every concert I witnessed she did playback.

She should stick to those ice cream commercials or whatever. :lol:

Hele.
24th May 2015, 13:48
Rumors are getting stronger and stronger that Croatia will come back next year and that we will send winner of the Voice of this season, Nina Kraljić.
At least, it was said 4 days ago in article of Tportal which is one of most relevant portals in country that will not easily write non senses. They even wrote in article that "their sources on national tv confirmed them those rumors" so I really hope it is true.
Later in article they asked some previous Croatian representatives what they think about this (about Croatian coming back and Nina Kraljić as artist) and all of their quotes basically agree in everything:
It is shame that Croatia doesn't participate in Eurovision this year. Nina Kraljić is good artist but that's not so important as she has to got great song.

Source: http://www.tportal.hr/magazin/estrada/382330/Hrvatska-se-vraca-na-Eurosong-saljemo-Ninu-Kraljic.html

lavieenrose
24th May 2015, 13:50
we will send winner of the Voice of this season, Nina Kraljić.

So what you're saying is that we should cancel what will be a pointless Eurovision 2016 and book our flights to Dubrovnik right now?

Hele.
24th May 2015, 13:52
So what you're saying is that we should cancel what will be a pointless Eurovision 2016 and book our flights to Dubrovnik right now?

xrollinglol
I just hope it is true xpray

lowyby
24th May 2015, 14:02
Make her an EPIC Balkan ballad like Zajdi Zajdi that she did on the Voice & she's an automatic top 10!

Tinchey
24th May 2015, 14:07
Make her an EPIC Balkan ballad like Zajdi Zajdi that she did on the Voice & she's an automatic top 10!

Unfortunately Croatian folklore is different than Macedonian, and we don't have such songs. It would be a huge scandal if we enter with a Joksimović-like song. When Severina used ethno elements she was accused for using Serbian folklore sounds. :'D
Anyway now that I've seen the results of ESC 2015 I don't want us to come back. :|

lowyby
24th May 2015, 14:17
Unfortunately Croatian folklore is different than Macedonian, and we don't have such songs. It would be a huge scandal if we enter with a Joksimović-like song. When Severina used ethno elements she was accused for using Serbian folklore sounds. :'D
Anyway now that I've seen the results of ESC 2015 I don't want us to come back. :|

Could you show me some typical Croatian folklore Luka <3?

Tinchey
24th May 2015, 14:27
Could you show me some typical Croatian folklore Luka <3?

Here ^^

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mEiOBZo5Ymw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tjOU75lEav8 (the one used in Moja Štikla)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9pWz3UT068w

I think these are the most popular songs/song types ^^

daniels1000
24th May 2015, 14:34
Unfortunately Croatian folklore is different than Macedonian, and we don't have such songs. It would be a huge scandal if we enter with a Joksimović-like song. When Severina used ethno elements she was accused for using Serbian folklore sounds. :'D
Anyway now that I've seen the results of ESC 2015 I don't want us to come back. :|


Could you show me some typical Croatian folklore Luka <3?


Something like this would be great. xheart

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3grGPILfw3w
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D8EHslAnPj0

Tinchey
24th May 2015, 14:37
Something like this would be great. xheart

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3grGPILfw3w
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D8EHslAnPj0

Yep, but I think it's a bit late for experimental-ethno-electronica. It would've worked 5 years ago, but I'm not sure if it's a thing now. It would certainly be refreshing next to all the cheese that's ruling ESC atm. :'D

Hele.
24th May 2015, 16:57
Or something a bit of modern arrangement:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jWuO_ZvN4gQ (this is characteristic for Croatian region Slavonia)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TutD9FtCpgI (or Dalmatia)

Gogerko
24th May 2015, 20:00
Rumors are getting stronger and stronger that Croatia will come back next year and that we will send winner of the Voice of this season, Nina Kraljić.
At least, it was said 4 days ago in article of Tportal which is one of most relevant portals in country that will not easily write non senses. They even wrote in article that "their sources on national tv confirmed them those rumors" so I really hope it is true.
Later in article they asked some previous Croatian representatives what they think about this (about Croatian coming back and Nina Kraljić as artist) and all of their quotes basically agree in everything:
It is shame that Croatia doesn't participate in Eurovision this year. Nina Kraljić is good artist but that's not so important as she has to got great song.

Source: http://www.tportal.hr/magazin/estrada/382330/Hrvatska-se-vraca-na-Eurosong-saljemo-Ninu-Kraljic.html

xwave1xwave1xwave1
Love you so much for posting this ♥

BarefootBoogaloo
25th May 2015, 06:30
From what was said last year, the broadcaster had already decided that whomever won The Voice Croatia was going to be sent next year. If for some reason or another that doesn't happen:

Franka

https://youtu.be/wFPWrVcnK7o

And even though they won't get asked to (in part because Ira's a judge on The Voice Croatia)
Colonia

https://youtu.be/_7TH_HZRW_8

Hele.
27th May 2015, 12:27
Rumors are getting stronger and stronger and even MORE STRONGER!!!
One of most popular and most relevant newspapers in Croatia, Jutarnji list (that we first cited about sending possible The Voice winner at ESC), just made sensational article with title: Croatia is back at eurovision next year! Nina Kraljic is our representative! But later, in textual part it is described that those are still rumors (that highly will become true). Only thing I do not like this time is that they do not say anything about their source (unlike first time they wrote something on this topic when their source was HOD of our delegation, Mr. Kostadinov or unlike Tportal that in article cited "unofficial sources from national tv"). So, maybe this is only copy-paste of info from Tportal. Anyway, it is nice to see Croatian media giving attention to eurovision (also, they were following it all days while it was in progress and also silently were criticizing decision to not participate which could be important as esc in Croatia in last years did not have support of media) and to speak about potential comeback.
This article just gave another short description at first about this year esc. Then speaks about possibility of comeback and then "criticizing" comment (but saying good things on Nina) on selection of our TV. They are just asking who will write song and will it be good enough? They are skeptic about sending another Nina internally (they refer on Nina Badric) and they are wondering if Croatia has learnt anything from previous years. But that is true...

Anyway, article: http://www.jutarnji.hr/-na-iducem-ce-nas-eurosongu-predstavljati-nina-kraljic-/1356272/

Gogerko you will be happy! xcheer

lavieenrose
27th May 2015, 13:35
YAY!!! Now just don't make her sing "A Million Voices" or the like.

Gogerko
28th May 2015, 21:07
Rumors are getting stronger and stronger and even MORE STRONGER!!!
One of most popular and most relevant newspapers in Croatia, Jutarnji list (that we first cited about sending possible The Voice winner at ESC), just made sensational article with title: Croatia is back at eurovision next year! Nina Kraljic is our representative! But later, in textual part it is described that those are still rumors (that highly will become true). Only thing I do not like this time is that they do not say anything about their source (unlike first time they wrote something on this topic when their source was HOD of our delegation, Mr. Kostadinov or unlike Tportal that in article cited "unofficial sources from national tv"). So, maybe this is only copy-paste of info from Tportal. Anyway, it is nice to see Croatian media giving attention to eurovision (also, they were following it all days while it was in progress and also silently were criticizing decision to not participate which could be important as esc in Croatia in last years did not have support of media) and to speak about potential comeback.
This article just gave another short description at first about this year esc. Then speaks about possibility of comeback and then "criticizing" comment (but saying good things on Nina) on selection of our TV. They are just asking who will write song and will it be good enough? They are skeptic about sending another Nina internally (they refer on Nina Badric) and they are wondering if Croatia has learnt anything from previous years. But that is true...

Anyway, article: http://www.jutarnji.hr/-na-iducem-ce-nas-eurosongu-predstavljati-nina-kraljic-/1356272/

Gogerko you will be happy! xcheer

Soooooooooo happy :D

Hele.
28th May 2015, 22:22
Jacques told if it is true that he will support Nina:
http://www.24sata.hr/domace-zvijezde/jacques-podrzavam-ninu-kraljic-kao-izbor-za-eurosong-420897

Some more media about backing at eurovision, actually this was first one writing about this:
http://www.vecernji.hr/zvijezde/ksenija-urlicic-smijesno-je-da-nemamo-novca-za-eurosong-1006258

Hele.
28th May 2015, 22:26
I wonder if someone could ask at HRT page statement about this. xthink

daniels1000
28th May 2015, 22:52
I wonder if someone could ask at HRT page statement about this. xthink

From HRT forum:

http://forum.hrt.hr/viewtopic.php?f=45&t=16937&sid=419edf1fd18cc1f43166401aeb3d4e9f#p791014


pitam na HRT-u hoće li se vratiti na ESC 2016 ima li ikakve priče
Dobio sam odgovor iz provjerenog izvora (kada nema istrerka da pita... :cry: )
"Daj molim te sljedeće godine je Euro 2016 u Francuskoj i Olimpijske igre u Brazilu,posla preko glave.Kome pada na pamet glupi ESC tresh, trećerazredni festival u kojem Skanidnavija i bivši SSSR prednjače
ne hvala "

"I asked HRT whether they would return in 2016, whether there is any story.
I got an answer from verified source. Please (in context = don't be funny), next year there is Euro 2016 in France and Olympic Games in Brazil, there's so much work. Who on Earth has ESC trash in mind, third-class festival in which Scandinavia and ex-SSSR are in front of everyone else.
No thanks."

http://forum.hrt.hr/viewtopic.php?f=45&t=16937&sid=419edf1fd18cc1f43166401aeb3d4e9f#p791019


Da i navodno jedna osoba na HRT Zabvnom programu rekla da nam treba barem 5 godina pauze od ESC-a

"Allegedly, one person from HRT Entertainment has said we need to take at least 5-year break from ESC."

---

I don't know whether to believe this. There really is a lot of stupid people but this surely wouldn't be an official answer (at least I hope). :?

Hele.
28th May 2015, 23:42
Those statements, as much as are depressing, have sense daniels1000. Yet, on another side, those articles I posted cite "trusted sources from HRT"...so, who to believe? Honestly, I will give a bit more credibility to newspapers than forum. But...anything would surprise me from HRT...If tomorrow they announce not participating in 2016. and explain it with those arguments, that would be expected actually.

Tinchey
29th May 2015, 00:09
A few years ago sport's programme was a huge problem for HRT, still is, but they manage to get rights for all major competitions. I am wondering for how long will entertainment be left aside... not only entertainment but music content on HRT, which has come down to playing a few music videos after 1 am on HRT 1 and Jazz/Classical live concerts recordings at the same time on HRT 3. They need to fix the whole programming, the Voice won't make up for years and years of neglecting when it comes to music and entertainment.

Hele.
25th June 2015, 15:59
Nina Kraljic commented rumors about her going at eurovision.

She told that many people congratulated to her because of that, but that she doesn't know why they do this because that are only rumors and nothing is official. Simply, she doesn't know what will be. xshrug
Furthermore, she commented on her first single...that it will be a bit...eurovisionish! xrollinglol Hmmm...I wonder if it will go out after September 1...
Article: http://www.index.hr/black/clanak/nina-kraljic-prokomentirala-suskanja-o-odlasku-na-eurosong/826012.aspx

On the other side, bad news are that Croatia gave up on JESC this year. But anyway, I would not say it is any kind of sign as come back at JESC last year didn't mean comeback at real esc...xshrug

Gogerko
25th June 2015, 18:04
Nina Kraljic commented rumors about her going at eurovision.

She told that many people congratulated to her because of that, but that she doesn't know why they do this because that are only rumors and nothing is official. Simply, she doesn't know what will be. xshrug
Furthermore, she commented on her first single...that it will be a bit...eurovisionish! xrollinglol Hmmm...I wonder if it will go out after September 1...
Article: http://www.index.hr/black/clanak/nina-kraljic-prokomentirala-suskanja-o-odlasku-na-eurosong/826012.aspx

On the other side, bad news are that Croatia gave up on JESC this year. But anyway, I would not say it is any kind of sign as come back at JESC last year didn't mean comeback at real esc...xshrug

Hopefully it will be like...last yeat we were participating in JESC but we weren't in ESC but this year we don't participate in JESC but we do in ESC :D

Yazy
25th June 2015, 20:03
Iīm not very convinced that we will return, but Iīm hoping that HRT will at least bother to give us a freaking broadcast this time.

teablog298
26th June 2015, 00:35
My suggestion is to send Nina Kraljic (Winner of The Voice) but to add something to that. I was thinking about famous croatian musicians (Just like Il Volo, who are famous in the US.) and the first thing that came to mind were 2CELLOS. Those guys are really talented, famous and croatian after all. They might not have time to go on Eurovision because of tour (i hope that is not the case). But just imagine how powerful a song could be if they were combined.

So 2cellos + Nina Kraljic+ a powerful text (That in my opinion, should be in English because nowadays people vote only for something that they understand, and the text should be written by a proper writer not someone like Huljic) = TOP 5 OR EVEN FIRST PLACE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l-9VZZWtMfQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VK-xZv9Esoo

lavieenrose
26th June 2015, 19:49
My suggestion is to send Nina Kraljic (Winner of The Voice) but to add something to that. I was thinking about famous croatian musicians (Just like Il Volo, who are famous in the US.) and the first thing that came to mind were 2CELLOS. Those guys are really talented, famous and croatian after all. They might not have time to go on Eurovision because of tour (i hope that is not the case). But just imagine how powerful a song could be if they were combined.

So 2cellos + Nina Kraljic+ a powerful text (That in my opinion, should be in English because nowadays people vote only for something that they understand, and the text should be written by a proper writer not someone like Huljic) = TOP 5 OR EVEN FIRST PLACE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l-9VZZWtMfQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VK-xZv9Esoo

Even just Nina Kraljić and flights to Dubrovnik in May 2017 are booked. Also, welcome to the forum; I hope you enjoy your time here! :D

teablog298
26th June 2015, 23:37
Even just Nina Kraljić and flights to Dubrovnik in May 2017 are booked. Also, welcome to the forum; I hope you enjoy your time here! :D

thanks for the welcome, i really enjoy being on this forum :D

Hele.
27th June 2015, 00:59
Nina Kraljic + 2CELLOS = Spectacle! xheart xcheer

lavieenrose
27th June 2015, 01:28
If it's the last thing I do, I will be the conductor of a Nina Kraljić hype train.

Milos-BC
27th June 2015, 08:03
Nina Kraljic + 2CELLOS = Spectacle! xheart xcheer


Yess! xcheer

xlove xkiss xheart xheart xheart

lavieenrose
27th June 2015, 17:08
According to her Facebook page, her first single's release date is actually the 30th of this month, so if she's going to Eurovision, it won't be with that.

Komet Blu
28th June 2015, 00:20
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vj_xXENwuGY

The fact that I probably would've killed for us to send something like this during our Celebrate/Nebo/Mižerja era. :cry: Still getting legit shivers when remembering what was the last thing Europe saw us with.

EscGeek
28th June 2015, 10:30
send Vatrogasci!

I just watched this video xrofl3


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=onngaJKmXiw

Komet Blu
30th June 2015, 10:17
Nina's debut single.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bKKphPe4s0w

Very interesting, and I could see it work at ESC.

Yazy
30th June 2015, 22:46
Nina's debut single.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bKKphPe4s0w

Very interesting, and I could see it work at ESC.



Sounds pretty interesting and universal compared to other stuff on our musical scene. I woudnīt mind at all seeing and hearing something like this on esc stage.

Tinchey
2nd July 2015, 01:23
That song is too ESC in the 90s. It would end up like Verjamem.

Hele.
2nd July 2015, 16:13
It is too ungrateful to predict how it would end...with bad staging it would, but with good staging I think it could be good. Anyway, if she really goes to esc, I expect that to be her next single (after September 1). Something more modern, more powerful, a bit more eurovisionish and in English! :D

Mrm
7th July 2015, 19:49
I want like Shorty feat. Colonia - "Jos jedan zagrljaj"!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sa5ee4WOYh8

vlatko
8th July 2015, 22:13
Nina Badric xheartxheartxheartxheartxheart

NikkiBoy
11th July 2015, 10:57
Nina Badric xheartxheartxheartxheartxheart

You just want all the persons that already has represented the country, don't ya? :D

Hele.
11th July 2015, 16:49
Nina Badric xheartxheartxheartxheartxheart

Nina is great artist but I'm sad when I remember how in her esc everything went wrong. First - wrong song. Everyone was cheering for Dat će nam Bog. Much better song for televote, with good performance, it would do ok with juries too.

This is just idea how performance could look like:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x7j-CnfF9Ao

When Nebo got selected, it wasn't that bad song but that disastrous and non sense performance at esc stage xfacepalm. Even simple performance at Dora was better.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OdzGUF7aiaM

A-lister
12th July 2015, 13:36
Hele.

In my opinion Nebo is MILES MILES better than Dat će nam Bog which just sounds like uninspired, tuneless SchlagerPop.

Even if Nebo flopped it was still the "least bad" they could choose.

Hele.
12th July 2015, 17:55
Hele.

In my opinion Nebo is MILES MILES better than Dat će nam Bog which just sounds like uninspired, tuneless SchlagerPop.

Even if Nebo flopped it was still the "least bad" they could choose.

Of course, I respect your opinion. ;) Actually message of song Dat će nam Bog is very inspirative and positive...so maybe it sounds just like that to you (uninspired) but it actually inspires to have faith and to believe people. That's message of the song. ;) Even if you understand it, maybe you wouldn't experience you in same way as me...It is also individual. Anyway, I do not think that Nebo is bad song too, but just that awful eurovision staging ruined everything...it was totally missed...and also with message of song Nebo. As I said, even simple performance at Dora was much more effective IMO. She should make something similar like at Dora...xshrug
Anyway, to move onto 2016, hope for confirmation of Nina Kraljic soon. xpray

Tinchey
12th July 2015, 18:06
Dat će nam Bog was released as a single before September 2011 though. :'D

r3gg13
14th July 2015, 08:12
=
When Nebo got selected, it wasn't that bad song but that disastrous and non sense performance at esc stage xfacepalm. Even simple performance at Dora was better.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OdzGUF7aiaM

They should have stuck to this staging, much more memororable :lol:


https://youtu.be/zhiAvdnElT8?t=2m45s

tuorem
14th July 2015, 10:36
I may be one of the few people on earth who think that Nebo was great as it was both musically and visually :lol:

Juries liked it that year :) but the outcome was expected as we all know how a mess that semi was :? with all the Balkan countries in (apart from Montenegro) sending authentic ballads in national languages. Some of them not qualifying was expected, Eva Boto from Slovenia failed because she was the only unknown singer of the bunch, and Nina failed because Zeljko and Kaliopi attracted most of the televotes (Nebo was much less "instant" than their entries). In addition to that, you were succeeding each other, which didn't help stand out.

r3gg13
15th July 2015, 01:59
^ Spot on

Nebo was more of a "that's not too bad of a song" track than an "OMG, I can't get enough of it" track. I really did enjoy Nebo- a pleasant track- though nothing more than that.

lavieenrose
15th July 2015, 02:37
Nina Kraljić Hype Train Update:

Still conducting the Nina hype train and very much wishing that she had waited to release "Zaljuljali Smo Svijet" for a couple months. My one question is whether or not she'd try to go more…mainstream for Eurovision. Don't get me wrong: I can't see her doing a full-on Polina Gagarina-style sellout, but I can definitely see her doing what Boggie did and doing something that, while a bit different, was a lot more accessible than her other work.

Hele.
5th August 2015, 16:56
At HRT forum, there are rumors that Croatia is definitely back and that confirmation will arrive for about month, in September! :D Hope to be true! xcheer It seems that one/some of The Voice candidates will go surely, most probably (but doesn't have to be) Nina Kraljić!

VasilijeM
7th August 2015, 13:17
Ivana Radovniković! Something like Danas Igraš Sam would be so refreshing for ESC

Gogerko
17th August 2015, 18:29
http://i57.tinypic.com/25hh1jb.png

I really hope this means something :D

theCONWEL
17th August 2015, 18:45
I really hope this means something :D

What does Nina's comment mean? :D

Gogerko
17th August 2015, 18:47
What does Nina's comment mean? :D

Let's play :D

Hele.
17th August 2015, 19:04
Wow...this sounds promising! :D Please, please...let it be true! xpray

lavieenrose
17th August 2015, 19:24
Oh my god...could this mean good news for the Nina Kraljić Hype Train? xheat xheat xheat xheat xheat

DanielLuis
17th August 2015, 21:34
She really really is hinting at it :D

Hele.
17th August 2015, 21:49
Look at one more shame of HRT...Charlie Mason, author of Rise Like a Phonex contacted eurosong.hr (Croatian eurovision portal) to help him to submit his song for contest for Croatia for 2016. And...HRT haven't responded him for more than month...:(

I think he would be perfect (co)author for song for Nina Kraljić! :D

http://eurosong.hr/skladatelj-pobjednicke-eurovizijske-pjesme-nudi-suradnju-hrt-u-na-eurosongu/

Hele.
17th August 2015, 21:51
Oh my god...could this mean good news for the Nina Kraljić Hype Train? xheat xheat xheat xheat xheat

Yup! I do not see why she would posting this and also and also with so "confidential" comment :mrgreen:

Tinchey
17th August 2015, 21:58
Look at one more shame of HRT...Charlie Mason, author of Rise Like a Phonex contacted eurosong.hr (Croatian eurovision portal) to help him to submit his song for contest for Croatia for 2016. And...HRT haven't responded him for more than month...:(

I think he would be perfect (co)author for song for Nina Kraljić! :D

http://eurosong.hr/skladatelj-pobjednicke-eurovizijske-pjesme-nudi-suradnju-hrt-u-na-eurosongu/

The bidding for 2017 already started? :o

Gogerko
17th August 2015, 22:45
Look at one more shame of HRT...Charlie Mason, author of Rise Like a Phonex contacted eurosong.hr (Croatian eurovision portal) to help him to submit his song for contest for Croatia for 2016. And...HRT haven't responded him for more than month...:(

I think he would be perfect (co)author for song for Nina Kraljić! :D

http://eurosong.hr/skladatelj-pobjednicke-eurovizijske-pjesme-nudi-suradnju-hrt-u-na-eurosongu/

They are really rude. He's waiting for a response over a month. They should have at least enough respect to say "no thanks, we're not interested" but no, they're just ignoring.

Hele.
17th August 2015, 22:58
They are really rude. He's waiting for a response over a month. They should have at least enough respect to say "no thanks, we're not interested" but no, they're just ignoring.

That's exactly my point too.

But somehow I hope they are interested! :mrgreen: Even if he would not write whole song, I think it would be smart if he is going to be co-author! He is great artist and can bring some winning appeal and make song to sound better and on another side, that would be also great marketing! :D

Hele.
17th August 2015, 22:58
They are really rude. He's waiting for a response over a month. They should have at least enough respect to say "no thanks, we're not interested" but no, they're just ignoring.

That's exactly my point too.

But somehow I hope they are interested! :mrgreen: Even if he would not write whole song, I think it would be smart if he is going to be co-author! He is great artist and can bring some winning appeal and make song to sound better and on another side, that would be also great marketing! :D

Gogerko
17th August 2015, 23:05
That's exactly my point too.

But somehow I hope they are interested! :mrgreen: Even if he would not write whole song, I think it would be smart if he is going to be co-author! He is great artist and can bring some winning appeal and make song to sound better and on another side, that would be also great marketing! :D

Me too. :D
I am actually suprised he's interested since we haven't participated 2 years in a row.

PamSwynford
18th August 2015, 00:32
Probably some low-paid HRT worker doesn't know English and deleted the mail thinking it was spam.

Hele.
18th August 2015, 00:33
Probably some low-paid HRT worker doesn't know English and deleted the mail thinking it was spam.

Love it! :mrgreen: xclap

But on serious note...sadly, wouldn't be surprising scenario...:(

PamSwynford
18th August 2015, 00:36
Love it! :mrgreen: xclap

But on serious note...sadly, wouldn't be surprising scenario...:(

Nažalost...

Hele.
21st August 2015, 21:11
Nina Kraljić soon releases official video for Zaljuljali smo svijet. I hope that's last activity of promoting her first single and that she concentrates on her eurovision entry (please be true, please be true xpray xpray)

PamSwynford
22nd August 2015, 11:57
Slay us, Kraljice Nina! xheya xbb

DenCalleja
23rd August 2015, 03:27
Croatia !

Please come back xpray

PamSwynford
23rd August 2015, 19:33
And here's the official video for Nina's song. :D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7sGVI5LSonE

lavieenrose
23rd August 2015, 19:42
I can't watch it xcry1 What's it like?

tuorem
23rd August 2015, 19:43
Hele. I love this kind of mysterious slightly-ethnic epic melodies. Could be the soundtrack of an poetic adventure movie xheart Amazing video too, couldn't she wait for September to release that? :(

Hele.
23rd August 2015, 20:12
I can't watch it xcry1 What's it like?

It makes song even better! xcheer But why you can't watch it? Not allowed in your country or?

Hele.
23rd August 2015, 20:15
Hele. I love this kind of mysterious slightly-ethnic epic melodies. Could be the soundtrack of an poetic adventure movie xheart Amazing video too, couldn't she wait for September to release that? :(

Awww tuorem thank you! Well, not sure if she could wait it but when she was talking about this song, she told that they made it "a bit eurovisionish" towards end! But if she didn't wait, I hope that means only that she has even better song for eurovision! As already in October our media informed that The Voice winner will represent us next (in 2016) while in May, just after eurovision was finished they continue that "from unofficial sources" from national tv, Nina Kraljić is our representative.

Believe me, she is amazing and she was impressing us from episode to episode in The Voice Croatia! I just pray it is true and when she is confirmed, I believe she will find really great song! Because she is also that part that makes some song amazing! xcheer

lavieenrose
23rd August 2015, 20:26
It makes song even better! xcheer But why you can't watch it? Not allowed in your country or?

Yeah - "The uploader has not made this video available in your country."

Gogerko
23rd August 2015, 20:30
This videos is so for ESC (reminds me of Gravity)
There is no one I would rather see on that stage in Sweden. Go Nina! :D

Hele.
23rd August 2015, 20:47
This videos is so for ESC (reminds me of Gravity)
There is no one I would rather see on that stage in Sweden. Go Nina! :D

I also was thinking and I agree with you. She has biggest potential from our artists (famous and non famous) to impress eurovision audience! So, if I can chose, she is my first choose too! xcheer

niko
23rd August 2015, 22:26
Nina is amazing! Well done!

aef
23rd August 2015, 23:51
Ninas song sounds great! I really like balkan music, though it actually isn't the type of music I usually prefer - at least at Eurovision! :) I hope you'll be back next year with Nina!

daniels1000
24th August 2015, 00:34
Such a beautiful video! xbow And I love the song so much! xlove

Too bad she didn't save it for ESC. xcry

Hele.
24th August 2015, 01:03
Such a beautiful video! xbow And I love the song so much! xlove

Too bad she didn't save it for ESC. xcry

Just think that she saved something better actually. :D

PamSwynford
24th August 2015, 09:01
Don't vorry, her ESC song will be even better. Off course, if she goes. I need to send an e-mail again, last time they've told me that they still don't know.

Grinch
24th August 2015, 16:01
Is Nina going to participate? Is it official?

Hele.
24th August 2015, 17:19
Is Nina going to participate? Is it official?

It is not official...yet. But according to all rumors, that is what should happen...if HRT (again) doesn't change it mind...
Soon after eurovision, there appeard this article (in one of most relevant Croatian newspapers) that says Croatia is back and represented by Nina Kraljić.
http://www.jutarnji.hr/-na-iducem-ce-nas-eurosongu-predstavljati-nina-kraljic-/1356272/

Back in October 2014, our HOD told that The Voice winner will be our representative at esc. He is also PR of The Voice show. The Voice Croatia lived up to all expectations, new season already started with auditions and then it is to be expected to live up expectations connected to eurovision too.
In this article, journalist says that "unofficial sources are people from HRT"...also, just few weeks ago, at HRT forum (by some persons that supposedly know some people at HRT) appeared rumors that comeback is confirmed and that it is most probably Nina Kraljić (or some other The Voice candidates).

Anyway, I believe we will know more in few weeks as during September should arrive official statement of HRT. But that's the time HRT confirms or rejects participation at esc anyway, so we will know decision no matter what.

Pray to be positive! xpray xpray

tuorem
24th August 2015, 19:38
Pray to be positive! xpray xpray

You need to come back anyway. Your absence annoys me tbh, Serbia returned, now it's your turn :)
You withdrew after your participation in Sweden, so coming back in Sweden would be logical. ;) Even if you've been underrated multiple times, I'm sure lots of people miss you. No more black hole in the Balkan reagion, I love me some Croatia. xheart

Hele.
24th August 2015, 19:54
You need to come back anyway. Your absence annoys me tbh, Serbia returned, now it's your turn :)
You withdrew after your participation in Sweden, so coming back in Sweden would be logical. ;) Even if you've been underrated multiple times, I'm sure lots of people miss you. No more black hole in the Balkan reagion, I love me some Croatia. xheart

It also annoys me too xcry1 But simply, we need our esc leaders to get serious or to let other doing their job, because before that nothing will change...xcry1

Hele.
26th August 2015, 04:39
Aaai, newest article mentioning Nina as candidate for eurovision! Just day ago!
http://www.vecernji.hr/zvijezde/the-voice-nina-je-snimila-spot-ema-ima-hit-single-a-jure-priprema-album-i-meta-je-obozavateljica-1020985

Shortly description: This article reflects on post era of The Voice Croatia candidates. When it mentions Nina, it says that she was winner (yeah, we all know that :mrgreen:), that she just realized her first official video for her single and for us most importantly, "that those days are louder and louder rumors that she is going to be our next eurovision representative"!!!

I do not know what they think when they say "those days"...or maybe they know something we do not...yet...anyway...please...

#pray #letitbe
xpray xpray

Gogerko
28th August 2015, 18:02
JESC - Croatia – On 23 June 2015, the Croatian broadcaster Hrvatska radiotelevizija (HRT) revealed that they would not participate at the 2015 contest. On 28 August 2015, the Croatian broadcaster Hrvatska radiotelevizija (HRT) stated the final decision for the country’s participation in Sofia will be made in the coming weeks.

Not sure if Vladislav Yakovlev is trying to negotiate with HRT or they misunderstood and thought it was about Eurovision.
But we might be on JESC stage again too...but if they do same thing as last year (pick a random artist not caring if he/she has a good song) I'm not sure if it's a good idea.
I would LOVE to see Croatia in Sofia but with a decent song.

Hele.
28th August 2015, 20:13
JESC - Croatia – On 23 June 2015, the Croatian broadcaster Hrvatska radiotelevizija (HRT) revealed that they would not participate at the 2015 contest. On 28 August 2015, the Croatian broadcaster Hrvatska radiotelevizija (HRT) stated the final decision for the country’s participation in Sofia will be made in the coming weeks.

Not sure if Vladislav Yakovlev is trying to negotiate with HRT or they misunderstood and thought it was about Eurovision.
But we might be on JESC stage again too...but if they do same thing as last year (pick a random artist not caring if he/she has a good song) I'm not sure if it's a good idea.
I would LOVE to see Croatia in Sofia but with a decent song.

It is HRT...When someone asked them in April if they go to esc (which is btw, in May) they told: "we will consider" (probably in attention to sound diplomatic) xfacepalm It depends who you ask I guess...

Gogerko
28th August 2015, 20:30
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QfB5GoCqKQY

WOW!

PamSwynford
28th August 2015, 22:25
JESC - Croatia – On 23 June 2015, the Croatian broadcaster Hrvatska radiotelevizija (HRT) revealed that they would not participate at the 2015 contest. On 28 August 2015, the Croatian broadcaster Hrvatska radiotelevizija (HRT) stated the final decision for the country’s participation in Sofia will be made in the coming weeks.

Not sure if Vladislav Yakovlev is trying to negotiate with HRT or they misunderstood and thought it was about Eurovision.
But we might be on JESC stage again too...but if they do same thing as last year (pick a random artist not caring if he/she has a good song) I'm not sure if it's a good idea.
I would LOVE to see Croatia in Sofia but with a decent song.

ESCplus sended them an e-mail and they've wrote that they are still considering. Now I've sended them an e-mail in case someone doesn't understand English, but still answered them.

tuorem
30th August 2015, 12:23
ESCplus sended them an e-mail and they've wrote that they are still considering.

Enough considering, now take part before I get angry IOTAP

Hele.
30th August 2015, 17:37
ESCplus sended them an e-mail and they've wrote that they are still considering. Now I've sended them an e-mail in case someone doesn't understand English, but still answered them.

Did you get any response Pam? :D

PamSwynford
30th August 2015, 22:18
Did you get any response Pam? :D

Well off course not. It was weekend. :mrgreen:

blue00eyes
31st August 2015, 09:58
lol HRT is like TVP :lol:

Verjamem
31st August 2015, 12:15
TVP till 2013*

PamSwynford
31st August 2015, 13:52
GOT AN E-MAIL FROM HRT!!! They've said that "they still didn't made a decision and that the public will found about it in the next days". That means that Yakovlev was thinking about Croatia when he wrote that tweet.

PamSwynford
6th September 2015, 10:26
Yesterday I've sended an e-mail to HRT and reminded them about the date of the preliminary date. We'll see if the rumours are true.

Hele.
6th September 2015, 19:08
Yesterday I've sended an e-mail to HRT and reminded them about the date of the preliminary date. We'll see if the rumours are true.

Thank you Pam! Let it be true please....xpray

tuorem
6th September 2015, 21:54
Yesterday I've sended an e-mail to HRT and reminded them about the date of the preliminary date. We'll see if the rumours are true.

Lol you have to do all the work for them :D unbelievable!
I guess we'll have to thank you if they do take part :)

PamSwynford
10th September 2015, 13:03
I didn't receive any mail from HRT but from an unofficial conversation - we're definitively out from JESC2015 and ESC2016 has a very big questionmark.

lowyby
10th September 2015, 16:07
I didn't receive any mail from HRT but from an unofficial conversation - we're definitively out from JESC2015 and ESC2016 has a very big questionmark.

What conversation?

DanielLuis
10th September 2015, 17:49
I didn't receive any mail from HRT but from an unofficial conversation - we're definitively out from JESC2015 and ESC2016 has a very big questionmark.

As long as you're in ESC 2016, that's what matters xpray

PamSwynford
10th September 2015, 19:08
What conversation?

One conversation. My boss will kill me if he finds out I've wrote it on a forum.

Hele.
11th September 2015, 21:49
Even Bosnia & Herzegovina confirmed intention participation but still no news from Croatia...of course...as always...xcry1

tuorem
12th September 2015, 21:51
Even Bosnia & Herzegovina confirmed intention participation but still no news from Croatia...of course...as always...xcry1

Keep faith, look at your neighbors: Slovenia and Montenegro qualified twice in a row, Serbia returned and got a 10th place... If Bosnia is willing to try again, then you have NO reason to stay out. I miss my whole Balkan family xhug

And next year I want all of you to take over the contest and steal the tickets to the final, please join forces and get us out of Scandinavia xpray :mrgreen:

aef
12th September 2015, 22:24
And with Nina Kraljić even a top 10 result isn't unrealistic! xup

Sean
13th September 2015, 02:24
One conversation. My boss will kill me if he finds out I've wrote it on a forum.

Well you'd best hope you have a degree of internet anonymity :lol:

GRE
13th September 2015, 06:08
I think it's 50-50 for Croatia.

PamSwynford
13th September 2015, 13:16
Well you'd best hope you have a degree of internet anonymity :lol:

Well, he said much more, but we have to wait HRT.

Hele.
13th September 2015, 18:22
Keep faith, look at your neighbors: Slovenia and Montenegro qualified twice in a row, Serbia returned and got a 10th place... If Bosnia is willing to try again, then you have NO reason to stay out. I miss my whole Balkan family xhug

And next year I want all of you to take over the contest and steal the tickets to the final, please join forces and get us out of Scandinavia xpray :mrgreen:

It is not about those "reasons". It is about negative opinion toward eurovision of few (crucial) people at our tv...:(

tuorem
13th September 2015, 18:37
It is not about those "reasons". It is about negative opinion toward eurovision of few (crucial) people at our tv...:(

I guess their negative opinions are partly based on recent failures though, you wouldn't have withdrawn otherwise.
Did those people gave an explanation about Croatia withdrawing in 2014? I don't remember.

Yazy
13th September 2015, 19:32
I guess their negative opinions are partly based on recent failures though, you wouldn't have withdrawn otherwise.
Did those people gave an explanation about Croatia withdrawing in 2014? I don't remember.


I think that they said something like: " Financial this......financial that......"

But honestly, financial my a**! They are just being salty and this is their way of expressing it. Unfortunately, they are the ones who have the final word.

Hele.
13th September 2015, 21:07
I guess their negative opinions are partly based on recent failures though, you wouldn't have withdrawn otherwise.
Did those people gave an explanation about Croatia withdrawing in 2014? I don't remember.

It is actually not connected that much with results but their person view on eurovision. They think it is some trash manifestation, full of kitsch and gays, and not worthy of our participation :( because it is no sense and under our (but read THEIR PERSONAL) level. That's what sum up their opinion toward eurovision. :( :( :(

r3gg13
14th September 2015, 17:26
At this point, I only go to this thread to see email updates between Pam and HRT officials :lol:


PamSwynford, since you seem to work for the media, can you spearhead the ESC committee for the upcoming year? If the current heads don't care about ESC, then you can come in and head the ESC committee :mrgreen:. Everyone at ESCUnited will back you up :)

Tinchey
14th September 2015, 22:24
We're probably out. :(

Sean
15th September 2015, 02:07
We're probably out. :(

Why tbh

Tinchey
15th September 2015, 04:53
Why tbh

Because HRT. ;__________;

PamSwynford
15th September 2015, 10:01
At this point, I only go to this thread to see email updates between Pam and HRT officials :lol:


PamSwynford, since you seem to work for the media, can you spearhead the ESC committee for the upcoming year? If the current heads don't care about ESC, then you can come in and head the ESC committee :mrgreen:. Everyone at ESCUnited will back you up :)

LOL. I'm not so sure how the ESC commitee will help me, but ok. Anyway, HRT didn't answered my mail for almost two week, probably because I've sended it from my business mail, not personal. Very rude attitude and very indicative, if you ask me.

tuorem
15th September 2015, 12:07
Can HRT just state they won't take part if that's the case? I don't like this silence at all :mad:

Yazy
15th September 2015, 17:57
Pam, the number one negotiator! :lol:

Representing us; the dissapointed esc fans, in fight against HRT regime.


On the serious note tho, has there been a petition about our return? That would be an interesting idea if it hasnīt been tried yet.

AshleyWright
15th September 2015, 18:06
Pam, the number one negotiator! :lol:

Representing us; the dissapointed esc fans, in fight against HRT regime.


On the serious note tho, has there been a petition about our return? That would be an interesting idea if it hasnīt been tried yet.

Petitions. xlove I can't tell you how many we've had in the UK to get a decent entry. You can see how well they worked. XD

Yazy
15th September 2015, 18:26
Petitions. xlove I can't tell you how many we've had in the UK to get a decent entry. You can see how well they worked. XD

Anything is better than this "waiting for nothing".
If nothing else, maybe at least they will respond sooner. Its not always a bad idea to be a nuisance.

And that is why I want to hear their "no" right now, instead of waiting for it at the beginning of next year.

AshleyWright
15th September 2015, 18:30
Anything is better than this "waiting for nothing".
If nothing else, maybe at least they will respond sooner. Its not always a bad idea to be a nuisance.

And that is why I want to hear their "no" right now, instead of waiting for it at the beginning of next year.

I can understand your frustration, but unless a petition gets thousands of signatures it will go nowhere and achieve nothing.

Yazy
15th September 2015, 18:33
I can understand your frustration, but unless a petition gets thousands of signatures it will go nowhere and achieve nothing.

Iīm not really frustrated anymore (I was few years back, but now we all cooled down).

It doesnīt even have to be a petition, but some sort of pressure needs to be applied, or they will just keep doing what they want.

EDIT: Itīs not even our absence that bugs me, but simply HRT in general.

r3gg13
15th September 2015, 19:43
LOL. I'm not so sure how the ESC commitee will help me, but ok. Anyway, HRT didn't answered my mail for almost two week, probably because I've sended it from my business mail, not personal. Very rude attitude and very indicative, if you ask me.

Timely: Hopefully Bosnia's prelim confirmation can influence HRT's decision :D

PamSwynford
15th September 2015, 20:19
On the serious note tho, has there been a petition about our return? That would be an interesting idea if it hasnīt been tried yet.

I remember that OGAE Croatia wrote an open letter to HRT when they decided to withdraw, but they are so unorganized and lazy. They didn't touch their FB page for almost 9 month, and their webpage is the same for... 2 years almost? Anyway, the Serbian OGAE is much more active.

Hele.
15th September 2015, 22:35
Iīm not really frustrated anymore (I was few years back, but now we all cooled down).

It doesnīt even have to be a petition, but some sort of pressure needs to be applied, or they will just keep doing what they want.

EDIT: Itīs not even our absence that bugs me, but simply HRT in general.

At HRT forum I suggest to write to our president, Mrs. Kolinda Grabar-Kitarovic! I think some probably will think I'm crazy, but there is chance this woman will react to this because she reacted on less important things on our "estrada" sky. One member will start to write letter to her and I will help him to emphasize:
- importance for one nation to be part of eurovision
- importance for Croatia (to be part of esc) - as we are small nation, it is important for us for several reasons (we are also touristic nation so promotion and visibility we get with this for example is just one of reasons)
- importance of supporting young and talented musicans
- criticism of our all relevant musicans
- possibility to have positive economic impacts (which is emphasized by Ksenija Urlicic, who is member of same politician party as Kolinda)
- that negative attitude of our publicity is because of bad results (which are effect of bad team - we had great team which head was Ksenija Urlicic and that made all our best results at eurovision)
- while Croatia had success at esc, it had positive publicity

I know some people might think I'm crazy, but believe me, in contest of Croatia, maybe this is really only way to resolve this while some (2) crucial individuals avert any possibility and any opposite (positive) opinion (when it comes from HRT) toward esc. In contest of Croatia it is important to know that our president (at the moment she is not member of any party as president of all people) is (so was) member of opposite political party than head of HRT (who is on that position because of...politics of course).
I want to emphasize that my PERSONAL opinion is NOT to entwine politics into music!

But for example, AshleyWright, petition in Croatia never would be success because esc fans here are in lesser part. When it was esc some portals asked question: Are you sad because there is no Croatia at esc? And "no" was like 60-80 %(depend on which portal). But that's the actually point of "political" reaction. To emphasize importance of eurovoision (for whole nation) and to try to get positive PR to esc in Croatia again...when things start to resolve on positive way!

Because if Croatia is not any other way to start to get things to get better...yeah...then write that statement to our president!

As for timing, I think it is best to send that statement when we announce non participation. So, if things get public discussion and our president makes pressure to participate, maybe EBU let us to confirm participation before final deadline in October. http://www.tennisforum.com/images/smilies/oh.gif

PamSwynford
15th September 2015, 22:52
Kolinda can't take care even for our state, I doubt she would intervent for Eurovision. A dumb-ass HDZ member that left the position of our ambassador in USA to be a vicevicevicevicevicevicesecretary and left the Croatian embassy without a boss for over nine months.

Hele.
15th September 2015, 23:33
Kolinda can't take care even for our state, I doubt she would intervent for Eurovision. A dumb-ass HDZ member that left the position of our ambassador in USA to be a vicevicevicevicevicevicesecretary and left the Croatian embassy without a boss for over nine months.

I do not have high expectations but I believe she could react (as she reacted to Nives Celzius and Marko Tomasovic for example) and especially because she and Radman are political opponents. :twisted:
Anyway, I know my suggestion is reaction of desperate person, but I really want something to try to get back Croatia at esc.

GRE
16th September 2015, 17:24
On 17th of September tha croatian national broadcaster will announce the withdrawal of the country for another year.

I dreamed it last night. Will it be true? :(

lavieenrose
16th September 2015, 17:35
On 17th of September tha croatian national broadcaster will announce the withdrawal of the country for another year.

I dreamed it last night. Will it be true? :(

Noooooooo the Nina Kraljić Hype Train needs to crash when she releases her peace ballad "What If a Million Voices Shine,"* not when Croatia withdraws! :(

*Obviously, I'd much prefer if that never happened.

Yazy
16th September 2015, 19:44
On 17th of September tha croatian national broadcaster will announce the withdrawal of the country for another year.

I dreamed it last night. Will it be true? :(

As I already mentioned earlier, I would be much more glad if they announce the withdrawal right away, than wait for it for another few months.

Hele.
17th September 2015, 00:56
On 17th of September tha croatian national broadcaster will announce the withdrawal of the country for another year.

I dreamed it last night. Will it be true? :(

For me...what I sleep always happen in my life! But...in real life it always get opposite of what I sleep! But it doesn't need to be the same with you...I wish I dreamed this dream...so, that would be good sign :mrgreen:

PamSwynford
29th September 2015, 14:34
Hey everyone, sorry I wasn't on this forum for a long time, but I didn't had news until this morning. HRT finally e-mailed me back and they've said they still didn't made a decision.

Yazy
29th September 2015, 20:18
Hey everyone, sorry I wasn't on this forum for a long time, but I didn't had news until this morning. HRT finally e-mailed me back and they've said they still didn't made a decision.




https://d.gr-assets.com/hostedimages/1380858857ra/3137636.gif

xfacepalm

Tinchey
7th October 2015, 16:32
Hey everyone, sorry I wasn't on this forum for a long time, but I didn't had news until this morning. HRT finally e-mailed me back and they've said they still didn't made a decision.

It means they've sent the preliminary confirmation paperwork. ^^

Hele.
7th October 2015, 20:03
Will there be any decision? xhelp

tuorem
7th October 2015, 23:33
Will there be any decision? xhelp

I guess they'll consider entering the contest in May 2016, if they have 5 mins to waste on their way to the coffee machine :lol: oh wait, was there a deadline to comply with?

PamSwynford
7th October 2015, 23:42
Will there be any decision? xhelp

I think they don't want to answer it at all.

tuorem
7th October 2015, 23:45
I think they don't want to answer it at all.

Actually, they don't want you and Hele to burn their premises down if this is a "no". :mrgreen:

PamSwynford
7th October 2015, 23:53
Actually, they don't want you and Hele to burn their premises down if this is a "no". :mrgreen:

Or they are probably fu**ing with our minds.

PamSwynford
9th October 2015, 15:46
http://esctoday.com/105554/croatia-hrt-unlikely-to-participate-in-eurovision-2016/
SOAB SOOC

DanielLuis
9th October 2015, 16:18
What do they mean it's unlikely? Do they know it's October already? Give a definite answer!!

PamSwynford
9th October 2015, 16:29
What do they mean it's unlikely? Do they know it's October already? Give a definite answer!!

They're screwing us all. I've sended them an e-mail from my work adress because the last time, they've ignored it. It's just too shameful they rather say something to ESCtoday, who had "exclusives" many times, but they don't trust a Croatian ESC site. Thank God the elections are scheduled for 8th November.

Yazy
9th October 2015, 16:36
Even non-Croatian fans are pissed off by HRT!

It will really be a challenge to find another broadcaster who can achieve that.

I donīt know if I should ROFL or cry. Maybe both. xrofl3 xcry1

lavieenrose
9th October 2015, 17:09
http://esctoday.com/105554/croatia-hrt-unlikely-to-participate-in-eurovision-2016/ Oh ffs

AshleyWright
9th October 2015, 17:31
Gosh the amount of useless broadcasters we have for eurovision. :lol: It's a shame Croatia wont be back, especially seeing how much some of you have been working so hard to get Croatia to return.

lilka
9th October 2015, 18:28
Oh no, that's a very sad news. I wanted Croatia soooo much :(

tuorem
9th October 2015, 18:54
What the hell is that? Are they trolling? "Unlikely" isn't an answer one can give the day before we know all the participants :?

LesterMalvo
9th October 2015, 21:07
Assuming the last entries Croatia sent such as Klapa s mora or Nebo, I am not sad to see Croatia out. It wouldn't effect me better or worse whether they are in or not.

Yazy
9th October 2015, 21:55
On the brighter note, I think that PamSwynford deserves some medal of recognition for the effort she had put in contacting HRT and asking about ESC. x12s

Way to go on being consistent. Too bad those pricks on HRT woudnīt return the favor.

Alevender
9th October 2015, 22:06
Agree, last entries from Croatia were not good, so I don't care about this country in ESC too.

DanielLuis
9th October 2015, 22:44
I hate when people say "I don't like this country entries so I don't care if they don't participate".
First, if you think that don't say it because it is offensive to the fans who are from that country. Second of all, you should want as most countries as possible participating, and if you think that they don't send good entries you should just hope they participate and change that trend instead of going "Bah, I don't care if they don't participate".

LesterMalvo
9th October 2015, 22:57
I hate when people say "I don't like this country entries so I don't care if they don't participate".
First, if you think that don't say it because it is offensive to the fans who are from that country. Second of all, you should want as most countries as possible participating, and if you think that they don't send good entries you should just hope they participate and change that trend instead of goinh "Bah, I don't care if they don't participate".

Gurl, what is offensive actually? Am I blaming croatian people, belittling fans of croatian entries, making a country look useless? I never stop myself from making the point of liking/disliking a country's entries. Because the taste of music is subjective consept and no one can have a word on what I say until I actually insult.

I do not care if Croatia does not re turn.

Besides, it sounds very funny to hear that from you after your posts in Turkey thread.

Yazy
9th October 2015, 22:59
I hate when people say "I don't like this country entries so I don't care if they don't participate".
First, if you think that don't say it because it is offensive to the fans who are from that country. Second of all, you should want as most countries as possible participating, and if you think that they don't send good entries you should just hope they participate and change that trend instead of goinh "Bah, I don't care if they don't participate".


I usually prefer to stay out of conversations like these, but you are absolutely right! It really is sending a negative vibe.

And this situation applies to every country I hear bad comments about, not just mine.

Whenever I read comments, such as: " I never liked Bosnia, they bring a lot of neighbour voting", or " Never cared about Slovakia", its just giving of a cold reception from the esc community, and makes an esc fan from that specific country ask questions such as: " Should we really come back given how many people openly say that they donīt like us"?

I have also already stated a similar thing in the Portugal thread. I am not a fan of Portuguese songs, but I am always opened up for a new attempt, because the next potential song can blow me away. Same goes for every country.

DanielLuis
9th October 2015, 23:19
Gurl, what is offensive actually? Am I blaming croatian people, belittling fans of croatian entries, making a country look useless? I never stop myself from making the point of liking/disliking a country's entries. Because the taste of music is subjective consept and no one can have a word on what I say until I actually insult.

I do not care if Croatia does not re turn.

Besides, it sounds very funny to hear that from you after your posts in Turkey thread.

You can liek or dislike a country's entries all you want. But just because you haven't liked the recent entries from that country you should, in my opinion, as a ESC fan, want that country to participate. If you haven't like their entries it doesn't mean that isn't gonna change next year.
And if I ever said I didn't want Tukrey to participate or return it was because of the reasons TRT gave for withdrawal. I liked most of the Turkish entries in the past and as I said I want as many country's taking part as possible, including Turkey, but hopefully if Turkey does comeback TRT will change that atittude.

PamSwynford
10th October 2015, 00:56
On the brighter note, I think that PamSwynford deserves some medal of recognition for the effort she had put in contacting HRT and asking about ESC. x12s

Way to go on being consistent. Too bad those pricks on HRT woudnīt return the favor.

Thanks. xheart Too bad I've got too many "zahvaljujemo Vam na javljanju i zanimanju za Hrvatsku radioteleviziju" or "Vaše pismo će biti uvršteno u dnevno izvješće Službe gledatelja (dnevno objavljujemo na intranetu)
kojim se nadležni urednici služe kao jednom od povratnih informacija o tome koliko su gledatelji
zadovoljni pojedinim programskim sadržajima, terminima prikazivanja... što predlažu, hvale... čime su nezadovoljni?"

LIKE, WHAT THE F**K!? I don't even watch HRT, the exception is the soap opera Mon-Fri 12:25! And football, but I'm also boycotting Mamić&co.

Yazy
10th October 2015, 01:10
Thanks. xheart Too bad I've got too many "zahvaljujemo Vam na javljanju i zanimanju za Hrvatsku radioteleviziju" or "Vaše pismo će biti uvršteno u dnevno izvješće Službe gledatelja (dnevno objavljujemo na intranetu)
kojim se nadležni urednici služe kao jednom od povratnih informacija o tome koliko su gledatelji
zadovoljni pojedinim programskim sadržajima, terminima prikazivanja... što predlažu, hvale... čime su nezadovoljni?"

LIKE, WHAT THE F**K!? I don't even watch HRT, the exception is the soap opera Mon-Fri 12:25! And football, but I'm also boycotting Mamić&co.


Those replies you got sound like pre-recorded messages from a telephone operator.

Sim
10th October 2015, 10:56
A Belgian eurovision site is also reporting that Croatia is not participating in Stockholm.
They received an email by HRT where they say it's because of poor financial status of the broadcaster...

Hele.
10th October 2015, 13:11
A Belgian eurovision site is also reporting that Croatia is not participating in Stockholm.
They received an email by HRT where they say it's because of poor financial status of the broadcaster...

Thank you for info.
:shock: Hypocrisy by HRT on its highest! :shock: Also, by all previous news, I can't say I'm surprised, but I'm deeply dissapointed and can't believe it is true one more year without us at esc! Ok, we really needed break one year after all that disastrous in period 2011-2013 but yet another year?! Third in a row?! That's too much and no reason for that! No explanation for this, they simply do not have right to making such decisions on their own! I'm so shocked and truly dissapointed! I can't wait for political change in my country! And everyone who knows me also knows I do not take side in politics! So only reason is: GET BACK CROATIA AT EUROVISION! I will so celebrate day when Radman goes away!

Sammy
10th October 2015, 14:52
This is really a bad weekend... with Bosnia AND Croatia both probably staying away from ESC 2016.....
Come on Croatia! ESC needs you!!!!

Yazy
10th October 2015, 16:44
A Belgian eurovision site is also reporting that Croatia is not participating in Stockholm.
They received an email by HRT where they say it's because of poor financial status of the broadcaster...

Know whatīs funny? They are sending all these information to all the eurovision websites around the Europe (inluding EscToday), yet they are completely ignoring fans over here and are not telling us anything. There are still no news about participation on Croatian eurovision website.

PamSwynford
11th October 2015, 00:12
A Belgian eurovision site is also reporting that Croatia is not participating in Stockholm.
They received an email by HRT where they say it's because of poor financial status of the broadcaster...

Yeah, they don't have enough money for Eurovision, but the have for their salaries and craps like Maestro.


Know whatīs funny? They are sending all these information to all the eurovision websites around the Europe (inluding EscToday), yet they are completely ignoring fans over here and are not telling us anything. There are still no news about participation on Croatian eurovision website.

And you know why they isn't any news on Eurosong.hr? Because they won't answer our e-mails! Today we've got on our FB a message that "why we didn't wrote that Croatia is participating because it's written on Wikipedia". SOOC

Hele.
11th October 2015, 00:34
Yeah, they don't have enough money for Eurovision, but the have for their salaries and craps like Maestro.

And you know why they isn't any news on Eurosong.hr? Because they won't answer our e-mails! Today we've got on our FB a message that "why we didn't wrote that Croatia is participating because it's written on Wikipedia". SOOC

Exactly what was on my mind about those craps...and do not mention their choice of movies, tv shows, etc...xfacepalm And of course, football! xfacepalm xfacepalm Or they can organize big festival in February or Porin show and not Dora??? Who they are joking?? Or they have millions for The Voice (it is good but we speak about money now)???

We understand Pam xrunhug

But what is most sad, I believe some people on HRT want to go at esc...I really think that Aco Kostadinov would try with The Voice winner, otherwise why he would say it for media last year that they have it in plan? But then appear that Radman who cuts every chance! I guess he is on my irritate list even above our politicians (Pam will understand this)! SOOC

PamSwynford
12th October 2015, 12:58
And finally they've answered to my business mail! Here's the answer: http://eurosong.hr/odluka-o-nastupu-hrvatske-u-narednim-danima/

Yazy
12th October 2015, 13:37
Alright, so for everyone who doesnīt understand Croatian, this is what the article says (in short sentences):

It is still unclear whether Croatia is going to participate and the decision will be brought soon.

The article also says that it is either going to be 2 OPTIONS: Nina Kraljić or no participation at all!

lowyby
12th October 2015, 17:31
They better participate then!!!

lavieenrose
12th October 2015, 18:01
To folk who understand Croatian beyond the few words I have: is there some nuance to their "undecided," or does it really just mean that they haven't yet made a decision? Because if it's the latter, then that's definitely a step above where we were a couple days ago! :)

EDIT: Fixed a typo

Hele.
12th October 2015, 19:07
Please participate, please xpray

PamSwynford
12th October 2015, 19:15
To folk who understand Croatian beyond the few words I have: is there some nuance to their "undecided," or does it really just mean that they haven't yet made a decision? Because if it's the latter, then that's definitely a step above where we were a couple days ago! :)

EDIT: Fixed a typo

I think they already made a decision but they don't want to say it out loud. At least not until the election pass.

Hele.
12th October 2015, 22:44
I think they already made a decision but they don't want to say it out loud. At least not until the election pass.

But decision will be obvious if they did not confirm it after ddl, right? xshrug

AshleyWright
12th October 2015, 22:48
What has the election got to do with eurovision?

Hele.
12th October 2015, 23:05
What has the election got to do with eurovision?

Oh dear...we are in Croatia...Current HRT director is there by political connection. If current government loses elections then current HRT director (who blocks Croatia participation at esc) will got change as there will be other director (by other, opposite, political line) who hopefully will have anything against eurovision xpray. Btw, Ksenija Urličić, best Croatian HOD, was there too by political line and she criticized many times decision of Croatian non participation. Anyway, when situation at HRT changes, I believe there is reasonable opportunity for Croatia to come back at eurovision in 2017. Hopefully. xpray

p.s. If all of this sounds like non-sense (and yes, it is non-sense) just have on mind one thing. This is Croatia, ovo je Balkan (as Milan Stankovic would say)! That's how things funcionate here! You can't get job if you are not member of some political party. Once I sweared to myself I will never enter any party and I rather will go to build my career in other country then live here (if I can't make success and normal life by my abilities in Croatia). As much as I love my country. Unfortunately.

AshleyWright
12th October 2015, 23:08
Oh dear...we are in Croatia...Current HRT director is there by political connection. If current government loses elections then current HRT director (who blocks Croatia participation at esc) will got change as there will be other director (by other, opposite, political line) who hopefully will have anything against eurovision xpray. Btw, Ksenija Urličić, best Croatian HOD, was there too by political line and she criticized many times decision of Croatian non participation. Anyway, when situation at HRT changes, I believe there is reasonable opportunity for Croatia to come back at eurovision in 2017. Hopefully. xpray

oh right I see. Seems like a rather dodgy way of doing things to have the television channel director politically affiliated, but I hope for the best. :D

PamSwynford
12th October 2015, 23:10
Croatia - a country where politics create the way you poop.

Sammy
14th October 2015, 18:54
The article also says that it is either going to be 2 OPTIONS: Nina Kraljić or no participation at all!

Well for heavens sake: send Nina Kraljic then!! PLEASE!!!!

DanielLuis
14th October 2015, 19:35
Alright, so for everyone who doesnīt understand Croatian, this is what the article says (in short sentences):

It is still unclear whether Croatia is going to participate and the decision will be brought soon.

The article also says that it is either going to be 2 OPTIONS: Nina Kraljić or no participation at all!

What an easy choice to do here HRT!!

Tinchey
18th October 2015, 15:58
Decision tomorrow y'all! xpray

Yazy
18th October 2015, 16:58
There has gotta be a reason for all this delay. xcrossed

tuorem
18th October 2015, 17:33
There has gotta be a reason for all this delay. xcrossed

They probably were still negotiating something, I hope the deal is ok! xpray

Hele.
18th October 2015, 19:50
let it be please xpray

eren
19th October 2015, 18:48
Hello, guys! xwave I've been reading you for a while and I finally grabbed some time to write a sentence or two. :D

Honestly, I think my country (Croatia) won't participate this year, and I really don't understand why HRT needs so much time just to say YES or NO. I've been waiting today for their answer since I read that today is THE DAY, but meh, still nothing. They're really starting to annoy me. If we will participate in the end, I'm also in #NinaKraljićteam, although I'd like to see Silente or Pravila Igre on ESC stage. Keeping my fingers crossed and wishing for the best. xheya

tuorem
19th October 2015, 20:57
So today wasn't the day? :(

PamSwynford
19th October 2015, 21:35
So today wasn't the day? :(

Well, this tweet (https://twitter.com/escbelgium/status/655408361253523457) said that they will announce the decision on Monday (or today), but as you can see... nothing.

Yazy
19th October 2015, 22:13
http://www.posttypography.com/hahafooledyou/hahafooledyou2.jpg










This is just.......ugh......

Hele.
19th October 2015, 22:26
HRT...it is really...

http://fsymbols.co/download/3275-not-funny-at-all-wallpaper-350x259.jpg

PamSwynford
25th October 2015, 23:59
START THE HYPE!!!! xbow xbow
http://img5.fotos-hochladen.net/uploads/201510252220370jk9rg8u2b.png
(translation: If there will be a official information about Eurovision, you'll know it on time.)

lavieenrose
26th October 2015, 00:03
OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG

It's totally happening xheat

Tinchey
26th October 2015, 00:13
Yasss pls. xbow

EscGeek
26th October 2015, 13:35
yeeah 6th Nina in this decade xcheer
Bring it on!

Hele.
26th October 2015, 13:42
I want hype but sentence still starts with "if..." xpray

PamSwynford
26th October 2015, 13:58
I want hype but sentence still starts with "if..." xpray

Maybe she's forbidden to say anything.

Hele.
26th October 2015, 14:05
Maybe she's forbidden to say anything.

Let it be so. xpray xpray xpray

PamSwynford
26th October 2015, 15:01
Soooooooo.... HRT is shutting off its forum. :mrgreen:

dizzydjc
26th October 2015, 16:13
Oooooooh, exciting! Hope Croatia comes back

Hele.
26th October 2015, 17:46
Soooooooo.... HRT is shutting off its forum. :mrgreen:

You mean that also could be sign of something? xthink

PamSwynford
26th October 2015, 17:51
You mean that also could be sign of something? xthink

Maybe only a sign for "I'm too tired to read all those critics on my account, I'll shut it down".

Yazy
1st November 2015, 15:23
Honestly, maybe its better if we sit out this year as well.
I donīt want us to finally confirm participation at the end of the year!
Some countries have already started with their plans for ESC 2016!

Making decision at the last moment = Not enough prep time!

Not enough prep time = Not enough time to make a decent song!

No decent song = Failure!

One Nina has already suffered because of that. I donīt want no damn deja vu!

PamSwynford
1st November 2015, 17:18
Like I said somewhere before, they are waiting for the elections.

Yazy
1st November 2015, 17:59
Like I said somewhere before, they are waiting for the elections.

But hasnīt the deadline passed?

Although, knowing EBU, they would do literary anything to have as much countries in the contest as possible.

Seems like there are no real rules here, since they are making all those exceptions.

PamSwynford
1st November 2015, 18:21
But hasnīt the deadline passed?

Although, knowing EBU, they would do literary anything to have as much countries in the contest as possible.

Seems like there are no real rules here, since they are making all those exceptions.

Off course the deadline passed, but do you remember when Czech Republic announce their comeback? Or the news about Australia debuting?

lowyby
1st November 2015, 20:32
How will the elections influence this PamSwynford?

PamSwynford
1st November 2015, 21:00
How will the elections influence this PamSwynford?

Well, who even wins the parlamentary elections in Croatia, they can install their own candidate as HRT's Head. Since Radman doesn't give a fu*k for Eurovision, maybe another option will care.

tuorem
2nd November 2015, 01:37
Well, who even wins the parlamentary elections in Croatia, they can install their own candidate as HRT's Head. Since Radman doesn't give a fu*k for Eurovision, maybe another option will care.

What I don't understand is: why didn't they state anything? I mean if the current HRT director does not give a damn about the contest, that's pretty clear and he's still the director for now. Or do they expect so much a change of Head will come with the elections? I'm confused.

Stiven
2nd November 2015, 07:19
What I don't understand is: why didn't they state anything? I mean if the current HRT director does not give a damn about the contest, that's pretty clear and he's still the director for now. Or do they expect so much a change of Head will come with the elections? I'm confused.

In the ex-Yugoslavia the ruling party appoints the National television director so if the ruling party changes so will the director.
However in Macedonia we don't have this problem since Eurovision is a important sources of income for MRT so even if an anti-Eurovision director is chosen after our elections he will have to comply due to pressure from sponsors. Croatia on the other hands xshrug .Is the current party any good in order to keep Radman around?

PamSwynford
2nd November 2015, 11:12
.Is the current party any good in order to keep Radman around?

I don't know, TBH, they aren't sending those signals. We just have to wait for the results of the elections.

PamSwynford
4th November 2015, 17:13
http://i68.tinypic.com/14xhxs9.png
(Random Guy: Hej Nina, will your album be out by the end of the year?
Nina Kraljić: The album will be released next year plus some new interest projects connected with it.
Random Guy: Can't wait and thanks a lot for your answer.)

#hypehypehype

Hele.
4th November 2015, 17:13
http://i68.tinypic.com/14xhxs9.png
(Random Guy: Hej Nina, will your album be out by the end of the year?
Nina Kraljić: The album will be released next year plus some new interest projects connected with it.
Random Guy: Can't wait and thanks a lot for your answer.)

#hypehypehype

xheart let it be, let it be! xpray xpray xpray

PamSwynford
4th November 2015, 17:26
xheart let it be, let it be! xpray xpray xpray

Btw, did you see that she started to wear glasses? :D

Hele.
4th November 2015, 17:30
Btw, did you see that she started to wear glasses? :D

No, haven't noticed it! xshock1

PamSwynford
4th November 2015, 18:00
No, haven't noticed it! xshock1

Yeah, she posted a picture of her with glasses and she asked her fans if someone got used to glasses. :D

PamSwynford
8th November 2015, 16:31
And soooo... Today is the election day in Croatia. Let's see which evil will win.

tuorem
8th November 2015, 19:04
And soooo... Today is the election day in Croatia. Let's see which evil will win.

Finally! Did you voted for a pro-Eurovision party? :mrgreen: (Who cares about political programs anyway? :lol:)

PamSwynford
8th November 2015, 19:49
Finally! Did you voted for a pro-Eurovision party? :mrgreen: (Who cares about political programs anyway? :lol:)

Well, they were comments on Twitter like "This is more tense than the Eurovision final". :lol: But I voted for a party that isn't SDP or HDZ.

Yazy
8th November 2015, 20:09
Maybe Iīm wrong, but I really donīt see us coming back this year.

Iīm fairly certain that the first thing that comes to the mind of the winning political party is not going to be:

"Holy crap! Let us quickly appoint new head of HRT so that we can definitely go to eurovision this year! Let us make haste!"

Maybe if our esc team has already made plans and preparations for ESC and are just waiting for the green light, it could be possible.

But if they are waiting for election results, just to start making plans and ideas, then its already too late.

Btw, we donīt even know how long does it take to appoint the new director. Does it take week? Or just few days?

Political party has its own priorities. Is appointing the new director really going to be their first move?

PamSwynford
8th November 2015, 21:56
If it's HDZ, then appointing a new Head on HRT is one of their priorities. Mass media are a mighty weapon for brainwashing people.

PamSwynford
9th November 2015, 11:56
The results of the elections - EPIC. :lol: We still don't know who'll be the new Prime Minister because 19 seats in the parlament are going to a third party and the decision is on them. xlol

AlekS
9th November 2015, 14:58
Maybe Iīm wrong, but I really donīt see us coming back this year.
Even if you choose the right PM and deal with this 50/50 situation in the parliament AND appoint the new HoB (Head of broadacster) you have time until the end of December/beginning of January. EBU can even prolongate your confirmation on 1 month if you ask them in December.
We went through the similar situation in March of 2010 (though we've already signed up as participants). We've got the new HoB after the parliament elections who announced the new NF in a week. Overall it took the new HoB 2 weeks to change the whole situation. And 1.5 months overall since the elections.

But do you really have any chances to see the new HoB in Croatia?

Yazy
9th November 2015, 15:14
Even if you choose the right PM and deal with this 50/50 situation in the parliament AND appoint the new HoB (Head of broadacster) you have time until the end of December/beginning of January. EBU can even prolongate your confirmation on 1 month if you ask them in December.
We went through the similar situation in March of 2010 (though we've already signed up as participants). We've got the new HoB after parlaiment elections who announced the new NF in a week. Overall it took the new HoB 2 weeks to change the whole situation. And 1.5 months overall since the elections.

But do you really have any chances to see the new HoB in Croatia?


Well I guess that the return is possible in that case. Not guaranteed but possible (judging from the fact that they will give us a chance till the end of the year).

New HoB? I guess the chances for that are big (if its true what Pam said about it).

PamSwynford
9th November 2015, 15:28
New HoB? I guess the chances for that are big (if its true what Pam said about it).

Well, Radman's protector and friend didn't even get a place in the parlament, so his role is now minor. So bye bye, Radman! :mrgreen:

Hele.
9th November 2015, 17:55
The results of the elections - EPIC. :lol: We still don't know who'll be the new Prime Minister because 19 seats in the parlament are going to a third party and the decision is on them. xlol

Once that third option specially said about positions on HRT and they told they will insist on "professionalism and abilities" and not "political suitability". I see a lot of space for Croatia at esc in those words. If they ever come true.


Well, Radman's protector and friend didn't even get a place in the parlament, so his role is now minor. So bye bye, Radman! :mrgreen:

Can't wait for this day! xcheer

PamSwynford
9th November 2015, 21:46
Can't wait for this day! xcheer

Me too. I think I'll throw an Eurovision party for celebrating his fall.

Hele.
9th November 2015, 22:40
Me too. I think I'll throw an Eurovision party for celebrating his fall.

I want to organize it with you!!! xcheer

PamSwynford
9th November 2015, 23:55
I want to organize it with you!!! xcheer

You're more than welcome. :mrgreen:

Tinchey
10th November 2015, 01:00
I think we're in. xpray

ESCPOLAND
11th November 2015, 13:36
http://esctoday.com/106750/croatia-hrt-s-decision-on-eurovision-2016-imminent/

We're still waiting ! :P