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escYOUnited
22nd April 2014, 23:05
http://escunited.com/esc2015/italy.jpg


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4TEpHTVWXnM

Krishoes
23rd April 2014, 00:40
Elio e le Storie Tese?

Sean
23rd April 2014, 00:41
Italy have done well since coming back but it's time they showed us some energy!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wYPnn9mfMpA

Tinchey
23rd April 2014, 00:42
Are there any good bands in Italy? It feels like Italian music scene is composed out of Sanremo artists. :'D

Krishoes
23rd April 2014, 01:02
Are there any good bands in Italy? It feels like Italian music scene is composed out of Sanremo artists. :'D

99% of our famous artists were in Sanremo at least once :)

We have some bands in Italy (sorry if they were in Sanremo too :lol:), I will post the most famous:

Negramaro

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fdf6IEFtoqA

Modà

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KccpGWSe_rE

Perturbazione

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BO-62OJATiU

Afterhours

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DVRf6zoFbyE

Marlene Kuntz

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HOZ8uLtJqQE

Subsonica

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DcxF1vYTb7g

Tiromancino

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gti-G-U2k7Q

Verdena (They've never been in Sanremo but everybody thinks that they will enter in some years :D)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TXufHm2eVaU

Baustelle (Their leader, Francesco Bianconi, has written many songs for Sanremo :))

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o7rpn1I_tis

Zero Assoluto

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8mok9Mv4FHw

Sonohra

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E-Uw1EoTCwo

Tinchey
23rd April 2014, 01:05
Oh great thanks! ^^ I've heard of 5 of these. :D

Franco
23rd April 2014, 14:46
http://i.imgur.com/4cjTsji.jpg

I hope they will make no mistakes this year. xsnooty

Tinchey
23rd April 2014, 14:48
^ :'D:'D:'D Savona 2016

dizzydjc
23rd April 2014, 14:54
Something jazzy!

Krishoes
23rd April 2014, 14:55
Arisa said in an interview some weeks ago that she will be very glad to represent Italy in the Eurovision Song Contest!

Arisa all'Eurovision? "Mi piacerebbe moltissimo" (http://eurofestivalnews.com/2014/03/07/arisa-alleurovision-mi-piacerebbe-moltissimo/)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wPrKYs2iDKQ

Tinchey
23rd April 2014, 15:07
That would be amazing. xbow She has such an amazing voice. :o But it's confusing how big artists in Italy would like to participate, I'd expect it to be the other way. :'D

greece
23rd April 2014, 15:11
Arisa said in an interview some weeks ago that she will be very glad to represent Italy in the Eurovision Song Contest!

Arisa all'Eurovision? "Mi piacerebbe moltissimo" (http://eurofestivalnews.com/2014/03/07/arisa-alleurovision-mi-piacerebbe-moltissimo/)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wPrKYs2iDKQ

It's such a great idea!xcheer

As you had predicted Emma last year maybe Arisa will be your next contestant

Franco
23rd April 2014, 15:14
Arisa said in an interview some weeks ago that she will be very glad to represent Italy in the Eurovision Song Contest!


That would be great, too!

Krishoes
23rd April 2014, 15:21
That would be amazing. xbow She has such an amazing voice. :o But it's confusing how big artists in Italy would like to participate, I'd expect it to be the other way. :'D

The fact that here in Italy the Eurovision is not so well-known has good aspects 'cause the majority of our artists doesn't know that in this contest many singers are newcomers and maybe there are only two big singers every year, so for them is first of all an international stage to promote their music and they don't think too much to the competition and other aspects really important for other contestants like touring Europe in the ESC-parties and so on...

Raphael Gualazzi and Marco Mengoni teached that Eurovision can be a good opportunity. The first is currently on tour in Germany, France, Belgium, Switzerland and after the last Sanremo he travelled to Canada!!! And the second will release his album in Spain on 10th June. Also Emma will release her album outside Italy in the next weeks! :D

Krishoes
23rd April 2014, 15:25
It's such a great idea!xcheer

As you had predicted Emma last year maybe Arisa will be your next contestant

My two names this year are Arisa and Elio! But I'd be so glad to see on the stage one of my favourite singers: Dolcenera!!!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P2UmvFozwLY

dragvision
25th April 2014, 11:41
Carlo Conti host Sanremo Festival 2015
http://www.spetteguless.it/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/0504215-6776-Tale-e-quale-show-Rai-1-Carlo-Conti.jpg

ariadne24lucerne
26th April 2014, 08:36
I'd love to see Modà at Eurovision with something like this:

e-__8yGKofE

Franco
11th May 2014, 13:05
2014 has been a bloodbath, but it was totally deserved, for that was a wreck of an entry.

The powers that be must return to the roots, to 2011, to the likes of Gualazzi and Zilli.
They must choose from Sanremo again, and they must value quality over popularity.

The phoenix of the winning song can be a good omen for Italy. Yesterday we burned. Today we can start anew.

latinista93
11th May 2014, 13:29
I don't know if Italy decide to partecipate next year.

I would send Noemi:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=82vPyknMiMU

If Europe want a personage, we will can send Suor Cristina :?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=it8ZKgwoY0w

AshleyWright
11th May 2014, 13:36
How did ESC rate in Italy? I know in previous years it doesn't do particularly well.

Franco
11th May 2014, 13:56
How did ESC rate in Italy? I know in previous years it doesn't do particularly well.

Worse than last year:
2014: 1.747.000 viewers (8.77%)
2013: 1.878.000 viewers (9.17%)

AshleyWright
11th May 2014, 13:57
Worse than last year:
2014: 1.747.000 viewers (8.77%)
2013: 1.878.000 viewers (9.17%)

Wow that is dreadful. Do you think Italy will withdraw? If not now at some point, because those figures are so bad.

Franco
11th May 2014, 14:08
Wow that is dreadful. Do you think Italy will withdraw? If not now at some point, because those figures are so bad.

I hope not. We'll see. xshrug

lowyby
11th May 2014, 14:15
If it was shown on RAI 2 or RAI 3, like usual, that's pretty good though ;)
Those canals have a medium market share of around 7%

If they're in it for massive public, they should show it on RAI 1.
It has good ratings for RAI 2/3 though, so I don't see the problem

dragvision
11th May 2014, 14:57
i dont think italy want withraw, the problem is italy win, in this case rai withraw, see in the '90

Quent91
11th May 2014, 15:07
RAI needs to make more advertising about the ESC, and stop broadcasting it on RAI 5...

darkap
12th May 2014, 10:23
RAI needs to make more advertising about the ESC, and stop broadcasting it on RAI 5...
They didn't broadcast the semifinals on Rai 5, but on Rai 4, and they did really good (1.06% + 1.34%). Previous year: 0.55% on Rai 5.
Simply the final on Rai 2 wasn't really attractive since there was Emma from "Amici" and "Amici" aired that night, so sharing the same target. And the movie on Italia 1 did quite well.

These are the full results:

Canale 5 - Amici - 4.307.000 21.38%
Rai 1 - Sissi - 2.395.000 10.83%
Italia 1 - Evan Almighty - 2.175.000 9.40%
Rai 2 - Eurovision Song Contest - 1.747.000 8.79%
Rai 3 - Ulisse - 1.646.000 7.64%
Rete 4 - Nico - 1.293.000 5.87%
La7 - Maigret - 621.000 2.68%

Targets:
Rai 1 - 15-64: 7.18% 15-34: 4.63% 55+: 16.99%
Rai 2 - 15-64: 9.70% 15-34: 11.50% 55+: 8.24%
Can5 - 15-64: 22.63% 15-34: 25.76% 55+: 16.76%
Ita1 - 15-64: 11.40% 15-34: 14.79% 55+: 4.39%

As you can see Canale 5 and Italia 1 damaged the ESC on Rai 2 with their more high results on the target 15-34 years and 15-64 years.
With "Amici" airing on spring, this will happen every year and ESC will never reach the 10% market share. The result of last night was nor bad, nor good. And Rai 2 was almost on the same level as Rai 1.

dragvision
12th May 2014, 22:17
have heard the next year, the comment are live in Austria, and not in a milanese studios like this year, this mean........

Happiness
12th May 2014, 23:13
2014 has been a bloodbath, but it was totally deserved, for that was a wreck of an entry.

The powers that be must return to the roots, to 2011, to the likes of Gualazzi and Zilli.
They must choose from Sanremo again, and they must value quality over popularity.

The phoenix of the winning song can be a good omen for Italy. Yesterday we burned. Today we can start anew.

Which song is winner of this year's SanRemo?

Franco
12th May 2014, 23:36
Which song is winner of this year's SanRemo?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wPrKYs2iDKQ

Franco
12th May 2014, 23:37
have heard the next year, the comment are live in Austria, and not in a milanese studios like this year, this mean........

...that we're in! xyaay

Happiness
12th May 2014, 23:44
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wPrKYs2iDKQ

Quite good song, and probably would get used to it after a couple of listening if it was going to represent Italy, but Emma was the way better probably. There was no any other rock entry in the final if I remember correctly. But no matter, as Italy doesn't need to worry about qualifing.

Btw, just for saying, Italy sent their second best entry since they came back imo and Emma was criminally underrated.

Franco
12th May 2014, 23:55
Quite good song, and probably would get used to it after a couple of listening if it was going to represent Italy, but Emma was the way better probably. There was no any other rock entry in the final if I remember correctly. But no matter, as Italy doesn't need to worry about qualifing.



Rock is good, as long as the singer is actually capable of delivering it.
Dolcenera would be a much better rock chick.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P2UmvFozwLY

Mrm
13th May 2014, 00:04
Anna Oxa to return! xlove xheart xkiss :)

If she was chosen in 2011 that would be my fave ESC song EVER without a single doubt!! xbow


Loredana Berte is FASCINATING too! xup

Jim
13th May 2014, 00:14
Loredana Berte would be awesome for ESC! :o

Mrm
13th May 2014, 00:17
Loredana Berte would be awesome for ESC! :o

Loredana Berte would be THE BEST CHOICE EVER!

Just too epic to be true!

Jim
13th May 2014, 00:19
Loredana Berte would be THE BEST CHOICE EVER!

Just too epic to be true!

I've seen her in San Remo and although I don't know Italian, she seems a very interesting personality, and even more for ESC... ;)

Franco
13th May 2014, 00:52
Loredana Berte would be awesome for ESC! :o

Loredana Bertè can't sing anymore like she used to, and she has never fully recovered from the death of her sister, Mia Martini. :(

Mrm
13th May 2014, 00:56
Loredana Bertè can't sing anymore like she used to, and she has never fully recovered from the death of her sister, Mia Martini. :(

True that! :(

But exactly cause of her sister she should try ESC where her sister SHONE like the true STAR!!

Krishoes
13th May 2014, 02:45
First thing: we need a singer who can PERFECTLY sing.

Second thing: we need a typical italian song, now it's time for a POWER ballad.

Mrm
13th May 2014, 02:51
First thing: we need a singer who can PERFECTLY sing.

Second thing: we need a typical italian song, now it's time for a POWER ballad.

= Loredana Berte xlove

Duo: Loredana Berte & Anna Oxa would be a DREAM! xheart

Krishoes
13th May 2014, 02:58
Unfortunately Loredana has a depression, she's always rude and out of reality when she's on tv as a guest. She tries to sing but she sounds weird and everytime she blocks her performances to discuss with the sound engineer or her partner... so sad for her. It would be a great disaster.

Mrm
13th May 2014, 03:03
Unfortunately Loredana has a depression, she's always rude and out of reality when she's on tv as a guest. She tries to sing but she sounds weird and everytime she blocks her performances to discuss with the sound engineer or her partner... so sad for her. It would be a great disaster.

But that is a life, if we can have bearded woman to teach us a tolerance, why we can't have a woman with mental health problems..it's a LIFE.. ;)

Krishoes
13th May 2014, 03:09
:geek:

With Eurovision you have a lot of pressure, many rehearsals, a 3-minute performance to held... imagine if she is on the stage in the grand final and in the middle of the song she starts screaming on the microphone "Turn-up the volume! I cannot hear myself!" and sentences like these...

Mrm
13th May 2014, 03:12
:geek:

With Eurovision you have a lot of pressure, many rehearsals, a 3-minute performance to held... imagine if she is on the stage in the grand final and in the middle of the song she starts screaming on the microphone "Turn-up the volume! I cannot hear myself!" and sentences like these...

I said...that is a life...

xwave

Krishoes
13th May 2014, 03:20
Good night:D I will go to bed to rise like a phoenix again in the morningxqueenbitch

Franco
13th May 2014, 12:31
First thing: we need a singer who can PERFECTLY sing.

Second thing: we need a typical italian song, now it's time for a POWER ballad.

I absolutely agree on the first thing.
For the second thing: let's see what Sanremo has to offer, first. We'd better pick the best song available rather than choosing a genre in advance.

ariadne24lucerne
13th May 2014, 19:33
Any chance for Modà? :mrgreen:

SRBIJA
15th May 2014, 18:37
Although it has yet to confirm its official participation in the 2015 contest, the official Eurovision Facebook page for Italy reported: "Si va a Vienna 2015!" (Let's go to Vienna 2015!)

:mrgreen:

Hamster
15th May 2014, 19:24
Francesca Michielin with something like Sola

Krishoes
16th May 2014, 01:41
Now it's time to go back to elegance. My name is MALIKA AYANE! Finger crossed!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T9UMbUCiAfs

rayoflight55
16th May 2014, 12:08
Now it's time to go back to elegance.

Come on ! :lol:

http://image.excite.it/musica/news/emma-marrone-fallimento-eurovision-default.jpg

Franco
16th May 2014, 12:56
Come on ! :lol:



http://i.imgur.com/S1QvGv0.jpg

Krishoes
16th May 2014, 14:55
Come on ! :lol:

For this reason I said it... ;) This has not been our best face to show to Europe...

bURN
16th May 2014, 16:30
Why not Loredana Berte before she dies? For god sake or Raffaele Cara.

HabaHaba
21st May 2014, 13:39
They should have just sent this... :lol:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gwvqdXR3XnI

oxy333
25th May 2014, 12:54
Come on ! :lol:

http://image.excite.it/musica/news/emma-marrone-fallimento-eurovision-default.jpg

Yeah! For the ones with fashion taste, that was quite a dress ;)
-----------------
Yes, maybe Francesca Michielin. Good pop/rock voice. Maybe with a song a little less rock next year :lol:

Franco
29th May 2014, 01:38
Annalisa Scarrone singing Annie Lennox's Why, 6 days ago:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C1n5EGrv4wA

If she goes to Sanremo...
If she brings a good song...

xcrossed

DanielLuis
29th May 2014, 01:45
They should have just sent this... :lol:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gwvqdXR3XnI

Best. Videoclip. Ever.

HabaHaba
29th May 2014, 02:41
Best. Videoclip. Ever.

It's the devil's music! :lol:

hunty73
10th June 2014, 15:50
Italy.Look.You have the amazing Annalisa Scarrone.Let her win Sanremo and then go to ESC.Shes a huge talent.
Shes very contemporary and would connect across Europe.
If not make it Malika Ayane,Dolcenera or Arisa.All fantastic artists.

Franco
13th June 2014, 02:37
Annalisa: "L'Eurovision Song Contest? Ci andrei di corsa" (http://eurofestivalnews.com/2014/06/12/annalisa-leurovision-song-contest-ci-andrei-corsa/)

xyaay

Annalisa Scarrone, in a recent interview, has been asked if she would like to compete in the ESC, and she has replied that she would gladly do it.

DanielLuis
13th June 2014, 03:35
Annalisa: "L'Eurovision Song Contest? Ci andrei di corsa" (http://eurofestivalnews.com/2014/06/12/annalisa-leurovision-song-contest-ci-andrei-corsa/)

xyaay

Annalisa Scarrone, in a recent interview, has been asked if she would like to compete in the ESC, and she has replied that she would gladly do it.

Then it's freaking set.
RAI choose her already!

randajad
13th June 2014, 11:30
Annalisa: "L'Eurovision Song Contest? Ci andrei di corsa" (http://eurofestivalnews.com/2014/06/12/annalisa-leurovision-song-contest-ci-andrei-corsa/)

xyaay

Annalisa Scarrone, in a recent interview, has been asked if she would like to compete in the ESC, and she has replied that she would gladly do it.OMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMOMG #superexcited

oxy333
14th June 2014, 11:35
What do you think of Giusy Ferreri?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=58rpopI6hIo

(don't bother her appearance in this video, it's for a specific reason)

dragvision
14th June 2014, 15:49
Giusy Ferrereri who? she have cpoied the Ami Winehouse voice

oxy333
14th June 2014, 16:00
Giusy Ferrereri who? she have cpoied the Ami Winehouse voice

Giusy Ferreri sing from 1998 :rolleyes: and, sorry the question, but how can someone copy a voice? :lol:

hunty73
18th June 2014, 15:49
Annalisa: "L'Eurovision Song Contest? Ci andrei di corsa" (http://eurofestivalnews.com/2014/06/12/annalisa-leurovision-song-contest-ci-andrei-corsa/)

xyaay

Annalisa Scarrone, in a recent interview, has been asked if she would like to compete in the ESC, and she has replied that she would gladly do it.


Franco please let it be true).You beat us n the world cup but id forgive Italy everything for Nali xlove

Franco
18th June 2014, 18:13
Franco please let it be true).You beat us n the world cup but id forgive Italy everything for Nali xlove

Were it up to me, she would already have the ticket. :D

Krishoes
20th June 2014, 02:08
What do you think of Giusy Ferreri?

I like Giusy (and this song is amazing!) but I think that she hasn't the right voice and the stage presence to achieve a good result in this competition.

oxy333
20th June 2014, 12:27
I like Giusy (and this song is amazing!) but I think that she hasn't the right voice and the stage presence to achieve a good result in this competition.
Yeah, that for sure. She is another niche singer.

hunty73
28th June 2014, 11:18
Yeah, that for sure. She is another niche singer.

Giusy is a great artist.I really like her a lot.She seems prepared to take risks in her music and try different styles.I thought she had the next best performance after Arisa at this years sanremo.I dont think shes the right artist for ESC though.
The problem Italy have is that while they probably have the best artists in Europe and write incredible songs they are maybe too "classy".Take Arisa with songs like La Notte and Contravento.Both incredible songs and Arisa an amazing singer/performer.Winner and second at a sanremo yet both wouldnt win an ESC.Top 10 yes based on the pure class.

Its a very difficult task of sending someone who can connect across Europe AND have that class.Thats why i favour Nali mostly.She is classy yet also contemporary.Interesting to see how things go.

hunty73
5th July 2014, 21:33
Franco (or anyone) what nights do the bigs at sanremo perform their 2 songs each?.I know they have half the bigs one night,half another right?.Im thinking of going next year for 2 days (too expensive for all 5) and want to make sure i get the tickets for the 2 nights the bigs do their 2 songs each.Id prefer the final but probably way too expensive.

cassidian
5th July 2014, 22:06
Ninna Zilli!

Franco
5th July 2014, 22:27
Franco (or anyone) what nights do the bigs at sanremo perform their 2 songs each?

Not anymore.
The "2 songs per artist" was an idea introduced by the previous host. The new host thinks otherwise, so each artist will bring only 1 song in 2015.
Google Translate (http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=auto&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.allmusicitalia.it%2Fnews%2Fsanr emo-2015-nazionalpopolare-al-doppio-brano-si-ai-talent.html)

hunty73
6th July 2014, 20:46
Not anymore.
The "2 songs per artist" was an idea introduced by the previous host. The new host thinks otherwise, so each artist will bring only 1 song in 2015.
Google Translate (http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=auto&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.allmusicitalia.it%2Fnews%2Fsanr emo-2015-nazionalpopolare-al-doppio-brano-si-ai-talent.html)

Interesting.Looks like they will have to make the big section much bigger.I quite liked the artists having two songs.It meant they could perform very different songs and engage the audience more.One song only means they will need a lot more big artists.Sometimes the nights seem very empty as it is and stretched out.
The festival has been much better the last 3 or 4 years mainly due to having such great artists each year.With artists hardly ever returning the next year having a bigger bigs section might make some years very weak compared to others.

Cyberbliss
10th July 2014, 19:34
Interesting.Looks like they will have to make the big section much bigger.I quite liked the artists having two songs.It meant they could perform very different songs and engage the audience more.One song only means they will need a lot more big artists.Sometimes the nights seem very empty as it is and stretched out.
The festival has been much better the last 3 or 4 years mainly due to having such great artists each year.With artists hardly ever returning the next year having a bigger bigs section might make some years very weak compared to others.

Well, the big section has always been around 15/20 contestants with one song throughout all the years. That idea of making singers perform two songs was a huge difference from the past. It always depends on the labels... they not always tend to prefer quality to quantity though, and a new entertainer has to differentiate himself from the formers, even if not for good :)

hunty73
11th July 2014, 15:02
Yes the labels like to perform two songs i would think as it gives their artists more exposure though the bigs are already mostly big stars anyway.It might make the labels (and the artists) concentrate more on taking a high quality song.It will be interesting to see if with only one song artists go for more jury friendly songs over televote friendly.
Arisa was always going to win the televote this year in that field if she made the last 3.I would think the really popular artists will be leaning more to jury friendly songs next year and hoping their televote holds up if they make the last 3.With only 1 song the bigs cant afford not to do well with the jury.

I have a feeling next year could be the strongest sanremo for years looking at the amount and quality of the bigs who might be back.

Cyberbliss
11th July 2014, 16:19
Yes the labels like to perform two songs i would think as it gives their artists more exposure though the bigs are already mostly big stars anyway.
I have a feeling next year could be the strongest sanremo for years looking at the amount and quality of the bigs who might be back.

Well... mostly big stars, of course, but not the biggest! It's quite strange, when an Italian artist reaches "stardom" (one can discuss about its meaning) tends to ignore Sanremo. I suppose that it's for two main reasons: the fear of a bad result, which could spot a currently brilliant career, and the sense of superiority towards other minor contestants that comes from selling lots of records (and remember, many selling Italian artists are far from having a good quality). Every year it's the same old thing, no wonder! I've appreciated last year's decision of making Emma participate with a song that didn't come from Sanremo. We have to learn to eradicate that festival to the idea of "all Italian music comes from here", because it's a format, nothing more, and there's plenty of other acts outside of that. Next year it will be more popular and less alternative :)

hunty73
12th July 2014, 13:25
I hoped Italy would select outside of Sanremo simply because it gave them more scope to select a song more likely to do well over Europe.The ironic thing is they selected a terrible song and Arisa would of done far better with Controvento ,(my favourite song this year was Guisy with "Ti porto a cena con me").
I think labels now very much want their big artists at Sanremo and it doesnt matter about winning.I think your right though that next year it will be popular music mostly looking at the likely bigs.
To me there is nothing better in the world of music than seeing a top class Italian artist perform contemporary songs with a full string orchestra in the Ariston Theatre.Fingers crossed Nali,Malika Ayane and Dolcenera are among nxt years bigs.

PamSwynford
12th July 2014, 17:54
Hoping for Moda, Arisa or this new band:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mmnqwv33I0Y

Krishoes
14th July 2014, 02:33
I think that Dear Jack could be the next italian contestants, if our selection will be Sanremo again.

This is their new single:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kjm2C6aCfMM

PamSwynford
14th July 2014, 11:43
You're from Eurofestival?! :o Nice to meet you. :D

Krishoes
14th July 2014, 14:49
You're from Eurofestival?! :o Nice to meet you. :D

Yes, I'm writing on Eurofestival News! Nice to meet you, too!

Cyberbliss
19th July 2014, 09:48
I think that Dear Jack could be the next italian contestants, if our selection will be Sanremo again.



Yes, It sounds reliable. They also have momentum on their side. I'm still doubtful about the quality of their live performance though...well, I'm doubtful anyway when it gets to a label creating polite tidy goodlooking young pseudo-hipsters :P

Cyberbliss
19th July 2014, 09:55
To me there is nothing better in the world of music than seeing a top class Italian artist perform contemporary songs with a full string orchestra in the Ariston Theatre.Fingers crossed Nali,Malika Ayane and Dolcenera are among nxt years bigs.

It is indeed a good thing... but it's quickly getting out of fashion (which is strange, because you all know how Sanremo is tied up with tradition). ESC followers in Italy are growing slowly and I still haven't exactly found out what are their tastes :P it's still quite blurry to me

Krishoes
25th July 2014, 19:11
Marco Mengoni: "Eurovision Song Contest? I'd do it again without thinking"

Marco Mengoni: "L'Eurovision Song Contest? Lo rifarei subito" (http://eurofestivalnews.com/2014/07/25/marco-mengoni-leurovision-song-contest-rifarei/)

hunty73
27th July 2014, 13:17
Yes, I'm writing on Eurofestival News! Nice to meet you, too!

Krishoes can you tell Nali to do some shows in the UK if you interview her).If not tell her to be the ESC entry and perform in the Eurovision in London show so i can see her there,.If you cant make her do those get me her autograph on a photo instead,:D

Sean
27th July 2014, 14:52
Marco Mengoni: "Eurovision Song Contest? I'd do it again without thinking"

Marco Mengoni: "L'Eurovision Song Contest? Lo rifarei subito" (http://eurofestivalnews.com/2014/07/25/marco-mengoni-leurovision-song-contest-rifarei/)

Rewrote this for our site in English, let me know if I've mistranslated anything :oops:

Marco Mengoni ‘would do Eurovision again without thinking’ | ESCunited.com (http://www.escunited.com/home/marco-mengoni-would-do-eurovision-again-without-thinking/)

AshleyWright
27th July 2014, 14:57
That has surprised me really, He didn't seem that phased by it at all. Or excited.

Sean
27th July 2014, 15:07
That has surprised me really, He didn't seem that phased by it at all. Or excited.

Yeah, he looked thoroughly bored throughout it :lol:

If he brought another L'essenziale I wouldn't mind though

AshleyWright
27th July 2014, 15:20
Yeah, he looked thoroughly bored throughout it :lol:

If he brought another L'essenziale I wouldn't mind though

Although Emma didn't seem like the life of the party either this year during conferences and such. Maybe it's an Italian thing? lack of emotion. I haven't really cared for any of Italy's entries since their return.

Sean
27th July 2014, 15:27
Although Emma didn't seem like the life of the party either this year during conferences and such. Maybe it's an Italian thing? lack of emotion. I haven't really cared for any of Italy's entries since their return.

Did you really just put 'Italians' and 'lacking emotion' together? :lol:

AshleyWright
27th July 2014, 15:28
Did you really just put 'Italians' and 'lacking emotion' together? :lol:

xqueenbitch Only when ESC is involved.

Krishoes
27th July 2014, 22:47
Rewrote this for our site in English, let me know if I've mistranslated anything :oops:

Marco Mengoni ‘would do Eurovision again without thinking’ | ESCunited.com (http://www.escunited.com/home/marco-mengoni-would-do-eurovision-again-without-thinking/)

This translation is perfect! ;)

Krishoes
27th July 2014, 22:58
Marco is a strange person (in a positive way). Sometimes he seems bored or "haughty"... like he doesn't care about what he's doing. But the truth is that when he is on a stage that doesn't belong to him, he goes on it with humbleness.

In his live concerts he is different, he's the master of the scene. L'essenziale is a good song but I think that with a different song, an uptempo, he could show his stage presence. He's an artist who totally changes when he is on stage, he enters another world.

I saw every contents about Marco at the Eurovision and he was really amused by this experience, and after that, he always spent good words about it on the press.

The problem is that our artists don't know what is Eurovision. They go there without any kind of knowledge about this contest and what is all around, so maybe they are "frightened". It has been the first experience abroad for Marco and Emma.

Marco came out very well with that 7th position, Emma has been massacred after that 21th place.

Cyberbliss
31st July 2014, 18:52
xqueenbitch Only when ESC is involved.

You know what? You're quite right! There's no passion regarding ESC... apart from a big bunch of fans (HERE I AM!!!)

ESC isn't seen by most Italian artists as good for their careers. Very few would go there just to have fun or for the flag's sake, without a glance at the music industry. Tradition is hard to die. Interest is slowly growing up again, let's see what happens

Cyberbliss
31st July 2014, 18:56
Marco came out very well with that 7th position, Emma has been massacred after that 21th place.

Yes, but Marco is mainly focused on his musical career, while Emma has more of a talk-show attitude towards her persona. I don't think she had great disadvantage from all those critics; she performed out of tune and with a bad costume, maybe she and her label should have worked more on that, despite complaining when the game was over. Unless they wanted to obtain that result. 8-)

Cyberbliss
31st July 2014, 19:03
The problem is that our artists don't know what is Eurovision. They go there without any kind of knowledge about this contest and what is all around, so maybe they are "frightened". It has been the first experience abroad for Marco and Emma.


Lack of knowledge about the contest? There's more to it. I don't think Emma would be able to fill a blank European map with the countries' name. Sorry for being so mean :twisted:

Krishoes
31st July 2014, 19:20
Well, we get that you don't like Emma! :lol: And I agree with you about her experience at the Eurovision and the consequences of her 21th place.

However, maybe our foreign friends are curious, La mia città is one of the summer hits here in Italy. It reached the 5th position on the italian radio airplay.

A-lister
31st July 2014, 19:28
Well, we get that you don't like Emma! :lol: And I agree with you about her experience at the Eurovision and the consequences of her 21th place.

However, maybe our foreign friends are curious, La mia città is one of the summer hits here in Italy. It reached the 5th position on the italian radio airplay.

La mia città was the best Italian entry since Italy came back to ESC and one of the best entries of ESC 2014, it's a shame it flopped :(

AshleyWright
31st July 2014, 19:51
You know what? You're quite right! There's no passion regarding ESC... apart from a big bunch of fans (HERE I AM!!!)

ESC isn't seen by most Italian artists as good for their careers. Very few would go there just to have fun or for the flag's sake, without a glance at the music industry. Tradition is hard to die. Interest is slowly growing up again, let's see what happens

It's great that interest is rising again in Italy. The viewer figures I have seen still remain quite low, I hope the result for Emma doesn't discourage future artists from taking the plunge or that it damages the growing interest. Only time will tell.


La mia città was the best Italian entry since Italy came back to ESC and one of the best entries of ESC 2014, it's a shame it flopped :(

Agree, It's the only entry from Italy I've liked since their comeback :lol:

DanielLuis
31st July 2014, 21:05
La mia città was the best Italian entry since Italy came back to ESC and one of the best entries of ESC 2014, it's a shame it flopped :(

I liked it a lot, but the staging destroyed it's chances.

A-lister
31st July 2014, 21:40
Agree, It's the only entry from Italy I've liked since their comeback :lol:

Well, I think all their efforts have been decent, but way too conventional and old-fashioned for my taste and overrated by the juries to bits, then comes something that actually stood out and it flops... :lol:


I liked it a lot, but the staging destroyed it's chances.

I disagree, I liked the whole Rome-theme, but Emma is a bit of a weak live singer though which could have caused her some problems. But it seems neither juries or voters seemed to be pleased with the raspy female Power-pop ladies from Italy or Israel, while a bit different in style they still had similarities, which is a big shame because unlike much else they added character to the contest.

DanielLuis
1st August 2014, 01:58
Well, I think all their efforts have been decent, but way too conventional and old-fashioned for my taste and overrated by the juries to bits, then comes something that actually stood out and it flops... :lol:



I disagree, I liked the whole Rome-theme, but Emma is a bit of a weak live singer though which could have caused her some problems. But it seems neither juries or voters seemed to be pleased with the raspy female Power-pop ladies from Italy or Israel, while a bit different in style they still had similarities, which is a big shame because unlike much else they added character to the contest.

Yeah I used the word staging but I meant overall performance. And I absolutely agree with you, Israel and Italy were two of my pre-contest favourites and I am gutted that both failed, specially Israel not qualifying. One of the most unfair if not the most unfair thing in this year's contest I think. However I can't help feeling the performance failed to achieve both of the two countries' potential.

hunty73
1st August 2014, 15:52
Emma had 3 problems.First she cant sing live very well in a way you need to for ESC.2nd the song was a terrible choice.3rd, in your face aggresive female singers dont go down well.You need to be fluffy and swirly and have a cat to do well.
Italy has gone safe since they came back but i think each entry was placed around where it deserved,quality but a bit dull.Its time to send your best artist Annalisa though.Her live performance of "Mi Sei Scoppiato Dentro Al Cuore" shows even better vocals than the legend Mina Mazzini managed on that song.Something like "Diamante lei e luce lui" or "alice e il blu" would probably top 4.Remember in the OGAE contest last year the international jury and international televoters voted her top.

There are other top class contemporary singers,but i think next year will be a Warner artist,and so Nali or Arisa must be in the frame.

In the meantime il keep streaming Battiti live into the UK every sunday night)

GRE
1st August 2014, 17:25
Emma had 3 problems.First she cant sing live very well in a way you need to for ESC.2nd the song was a terrible choice.3rd, in your face aggresive female singers dont go down well.

This.

A-lister
1st August 2014, 20:30
Emma had 3 problems.First she cant sing live very well in a way you need to for ESC.2nd the song was a terrible choice.3rd, in your face aggresive female singers dont go down well.You need to be fluffy and swirly and have a cat to do well.
Italy has gone safe since they came back but i think each entry was placed around where it deserved,quality but a bit dull.Its time to send your best artist Annalisa though.Her live performance of "Mi Sei Scoppiato Dentro Al Cuore" shows even better vocals than the legend Mina Mazzini managed on that song.Something like "Diamante lei e luce lui" or "alice e il blu" would probably top 4.Remember in the OGAE contest last year the international jury and international televoters voted her top.

There are other top class contemporary singers,but i think next year will be a Warner artist,and so Nali or Arisa must be in the frame.

In the meantime il keep streaming Battiti live into the UK every sunday night)

I completely disagree with the 2nd, I think the song is pretty awesome and better than most of the dated middle-of-the-road generic stuff we tend to see in ESC (especially from Italy) so imo I like the fact that Italy didn't play it safe for a change, unfortunately it didn't pay off because it seems SAFEvision only tolerate a certain level of different.

toinou03
1st August 2014, 21:21
:o:o:o
What do I read ?

2011 : Raphael Gualazzi : 1st class jazz singer with a jazz tune who has become a star in France.
2012 : Nina Zilli : Awesome jazzy singer that standed like an Italian declination of Amy Winehouse with a great jazzy tune and a deserved top 10.
2013 : Marco Mengoni : Italian top artist with one the biggest hits ever of Italy, i.e. a moving ballad with great text.
2014 : Emma : great rock tune but terrible live performance and extincted vocals.

All of them weren't safe choices. They were what Italy has to give = the classiest. xqueenbitch

A-lister
2nd August 2014, 00:00
:o:o:o
What do I read ?

2011 : Raphael Gualazzi : 1st class jazz singer with a jazz tune who has become a star in France.
2012 : Nina Zilli : Awesome jazzy singer that standed like an Italian declination of Amy Winehouse with a great jazzy tune and a deserved top 10.
2013 : Marco Mengoni : Italian top artist with one the biggest hits ever of Italy, i.e. a moving ballad with great text.
2014 : Emma : great rock tune but terrible live performance and extincted vocals.

All of them weren't safe choices. They were what Italy has to give = the classiest. xqueenbitch

The first three were catering to juries, not really up to date and pretty conventional stuff. I wouldn't call Nina "jazzy", it was more like a poppy take at Amy Winhouse. I didn't say they were bad though, I think they were all fairly high quality entries but they lacked that risk-taking oomph to it which I first found in Emma, which was a more contemporary "out-of-ESC-bubble" tune that wasn't really catering to neither juries or the traditional ESC voter either.

hunty73
2nd August 2014, 00:01
I completely disagree with the 2nd, I think the song is pretty awesome and better than most of the dated middle-of-the-road generic stuff we tend to see in ESC (especially from Italy) so imo I like the fact that Italy didn't play it safe for a change, unfortunately it didn't pay off because it seems SAFEvision only tolerate a certain level of different.

When i say bad choice i mean for ESC.Sad but true.I agree Italy didnt play it safe this year.Id like to see them send a classy pop song though,contemporary classy instead of just classy.Nina nearly pulled it off but the staging was cold and they missed so many tricks.

Id love to see Italy win it for all kinds of reasons.

A-lister
2nd August 2014, 00:04
When i say bad choice i mean for ESC.Sad but true.I agree Italy didnt play it safe this year.Id like to see them send a classy pop song though,contemporary classy instead of just classy.Nina nearly pulled it off but the staging was cold and they missed so many tricks.

Id love to see Italy win it for all kinds of reasons.

I love when countries take risks, ESC is starting to become very gray and the awful juries are adding to it's grayness. I wanna feel like the contest is evolving, instead of becoming a cliché of peoples' wrong-assumptions about what it is and again a music show decades behind the world.

DanielLuis
2nd August 2014, 04:52
I love when countries take risks, ESC is starting to become very gray and the awful juries are adding to it's grayness. I wanna feel like the contest is evolving, instead of becoming a cliché of peoples' wrong-assumptions about what it is and again a music show decades behind the world.

I don't think Nina played up people's wrong-assumptions of what the Eurovision is at all. And I don't think contemporary music singers that hunter is suggesting, like Annalisa, would either. Not at all.

Cyberbliss
2nd August 2014, 15:19
Well, we get that you don't like Emma! :lol: And I agree with you about her experience at the Eurovision and the consequences of her 21th place.

However, maybe our foreign friends are curious, La mia città is one of the summer hits here in Italy. It reached the 5th position on the italian radio airplay.

I'm not sure you were talking to me, I'm answering anyways :P

I love the song, "La mia città": I think it's really enjoyable and funny and it goes really loud when I play it. I'm surprised as well it flopped so hard, that's why I'm blaming the production... and it's true, I don't like Emma at all :P

Krishoes
2nd August 2014, 15:28
Its time to send your best artist Annalisa though.Her live performance of "Mi Sei Scoppiato Dentro Al Cuore" shows even better vocals than the legend Mina Mazzini managed on that song.

PLEASE. :twisted: (And I like Annalisa but...)

Cyberbliss
2nd August 2014, 15:38
Its time to send your best artist Annalisa though.Her live performance of "Mi Sei Scoppiato Dentro Al Cuore" shows even better vocals than the legend Mina Mazzini managed on that song.

Uhmm.. cough cough... :D

I really respect your taste, Annalisa is a good artist, but still not one of the best. Far away from Mina. I'm sorry I have to disagree :oops:

AshleyWright
2nd August 2014, 19:05
I thought better listen to some of the music from this Annalisa that everyone is raving on about on here. She definitely has an incredible voice. However I found her song "Mi Scoppiato Dentro Al Cuore" which was mentioned above very dated and really not to my taste. xshrug if she was selected I definitely not be happy going for another dated song, especially after "La Mia Città" from this years contest. If it was a song like "Senza Riserva" I would be so much more happier as it does not have a dated element to it. Annalisa would seem like a great choice to get good vocals but it really comes down to the song for me. :confused:

Was it Annalisa who said a few weeks ago that she would go to eurovision?


I'm not sure you were talking to me, I'm answering anyways :P

I love the song, "La mia città": I think it's really enjoyable and funny and it goes really loud when I play it. I'm surprised as well it flopped so hard, that's why I'm blaming the production... and it's true, I don't like Emma at all :P

The main reason for it's flop as it has been stated on several occasions, is down to the vocals from Emma. Which were not good TBH. A long with part of the staging, I didn't get that whole Crawling thing they made her do? :?

DanielLuis
2nd August 2014, 19:08
I thought better listen to some of the music from this Annalisa that everyone is raving on about on here. She definitely has an incredible voice. However I found her song "Mi Scoppiato Dentro Al Cuore" which was mentioned above very dated and really not to my taste. xshrug if she was selected I definitely not be happy going for another dated song, especially after "La Mia Città" from this years contest. If it was a song like "Senza Riserva" I would be so much more happier as it does not have a dated element to it. Annalisa would seem like a great choice to get good vocals but it really comes down to the song for me. :confused:

Was it Annalisa who said a few weeks ago that she would go to eurovision?



The main reason for it's flop as it has been stated on several occasions, is down to the vocals from Emma. Which were not good TBH. A long with part of the staging, I didn't get that whole Crawling thing they made her do? :?

My favourite song from her is "Tra due minuti é primavera". Have you heard it? What did you think?

AshleyWright
2nd August 2014, 19:20
My favourite song from her is "Tra due minuti é primavera". Have you heard it? What did you think?

It was one of the songs I listened to. I preferred "Senza Riserva" the most out of all the songs I have heard. "Tra due minuti é primavera" seemed alright as well, I didn't like it as much as "Senza Riserva" but still alright.

A-lister
2nd August 2014, 23:39
I don't think Nina played up people's wrong-assumptions of what the Eurovision is at all. And I don't think contemporary music singers that hunter is suggesting, like Annalisa, would either. Not at all.

I didn't say she (or the others) did, I just tried to explain how I feel Emma differed from the rest (not just Italian entries, but ESC entries of lately in general).

hunty73
3rd August 2014, 10:58
I thought better listen to some of the music from this Annalisa that everyone is raving on about on here. She definitely has an incredible voice. However I found her song "Mi Scoppiato Dentro Al Cuore" which was mentioned above very dated and really not to my taste. xshrug if she was selected I definitely not be happy going for another dated song, especially after "La Mia Città" from this years contest. If it was a song like "Senza Riserva" I would be so much more happier as it does not have a dated element to it. Annalisa would seem like a great choice to get good vocals but it really comes down to the song for me. :confused:

Was it Annalisa who said a few weeks ago that she would go to eurovision?



The main reason for it's flop as it has been stated on several occasions, is down to the vocals from Emma. Which were not good TBH. A long with part of the staging, I didn't get that whole Crawling thing they made her do? :?


Mi Scoppiato Dentro Al Cuore is a song from 1966 Ashley:lol:so thats why you thought it was dated. Annalisa was simply doing a cover of it on that show.I agree Senza Riserva is the sort of thing youd want,classy powerful pop.

This is a full radio italia concert she did,

Annalisa - Radio Italia LIVE (9\05\2013) - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EVJOT87Ttlc)

This is the song she won the OGAE Italy contest with ,


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UEgwLD5OYAw

and her performing her new single a couple of weeks ago live,


http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x22dvhm_annalisa-coca-cola-summer-festival-4a-puntata_music

and here is here a few years ago in a duet with Emma at sanremo,


http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xxjo7q_annalisa-feat-emma-per-elisa_music




Yes she did say a few weeks ago shed love to do ESC and so did Arisa this years sanremo winner.Both are warner artists.

I must admit i do lean towards fanwanking on Annalisa because i love her work,but at this stage of the year its great to be able to introduce each other on this forum to artists.

If i could have a perfect esc next year it would be Annalisa Italy,Iilaria Ukraine,Iiris Estonia,.My 3 favourite artists in Europe.

Iiris album The Magic Gift Box is superb and a modern classic i think.

hunty73
3rd August 2014, 11:00
PLEASE. :twisted: (And I like Annalisa but...)

:lol: ok maybe equal vocals)

hunty73
3rd August 2014, 11:05
I love when countries take risks, ESC is starting to become very gray and the awful juries are adding to it's grayness. I wanna feel like the contest is evolving, instead of becoming a cliché of peoples' wrong-assumptions about what it is and again a music show decades behind the world.

I agree with you 100% A-lister and its right that you care deeply about how esc in descending into blandness.The jury system is driving entries to the centre ground destroying the wonderful mix we used to get.Thats why id love an Italy win for starters.A top notch contemporary artist singing in their own language.This years jury scoring was a complete joke.They didnt follow any of their guidelines.

A-lister
3rd August 2014, 15:52
I agree with you 100% A-lister and its right that you care deeply about how esc in descending into blandness.The jury system is driving entries to the centre ground destroying the wonderful mix we used to get.Thats why id love an Italy win for starters.A top notch contemporary artist singing in their own language.This years jury scoring was a complete joke.They didnt follow any of their guidelines.

I don't think they have any guidelines? I propose guidelines each year, because if we are to keep them maybe with guidelines it would be a bit better.

hunty73
3rd August 2014, 17:06
I don't think they have any guidelines? I propose guidelines each year, because if we are to keep them maybe with guidelines it would be a bit better.

They do have guidelines from the EBU on what to look for.Originality is one.I know dont laugh but it is.Id say this year and quite a lot last year the juries were more biased than the televoters and their voting laughable.Didnt the UK rate Margaret Berger nearly bottom?.Just shows how poor the juries really are.

AshleyWright
3rd August 2014, 19:09
Mi Scoppiato Dentro Al Cuore is a song from 1966 Ashley:lol:so thats why you thought it was dated. Annalisa was simply doing a cover of it on that show.I agree Senza Riserva is the sort of thing youd want,classy powerful pop.

That really does explain a lot then. :lol: Compared to her other songs it felt so incredibly dated, and obviously that explains why. :oops:


They do have guidelines from the EBU on what to look for.Originality is one.I know dont laugh but it is.Id say this year and quite a lot last year the juries were more biased than the televoters and their voting laughable.Didnt the UK rate Margaret Berger nearly bottom?.Just shows how poor the juries really are.

Well most of 2013 jury was quite old, which was evident with which countries they voted for. Out of all jury votes released the UK had the worse.

Krishoes
4th August 2014, 11:21
Was it Annalisa who said a few weeks ago that she would go to eurovision?

Yes, it was! Annalisa: "L'Eurovision Song Contest? Ci andrei di corsa" (http://eurofestivalnews.com/2014/06/12/annalisa-leurovision-song-contest-ci-andrei-corsa/)

Verjamem
4th August 2014, 18:44
I'm wondering, how attitude is in Italy now. 3 times after comeback they done well, but after last edition situation is a bit complicated. Maybe RAI are discouraged, maybe they are more motivated to send very good entry, maybe they don't care very much about contest. I don't know :p

hunty73
4th August 2014, 20:18
I'm wondering, how attitude is in Italy now. 3 times after comeback they done well, but after last edition situation is a bit complicated. Maybe RAI are discouraged, maybe they are more motivated to send very good entry, maybe they don't care very much about contest. I don't know :p

RAI are very motivated Verjamem but its the record companies driving it.Mengoni has had success in Spain etc as a direct result of ESC.Sony and Warner have had a bit of a spat this year in Europe over ESC songs so I think Warner will be pushing RAI to make it one of their artists this year.Krishoes will be able to find out more as we move forward but already he has reported above the link to both Annalisa and Arisa saying theyd do it and they are both Warner artists.
RAI needs big artists every year because the aim is to slowly build up the ESC brand again in Italy and get people interested.

Franco
4th August 2014, 21:10
I'm wondering, how attitude is in Italy now. 3 times after comeback they done well, but after last edition situation is a bit complicated. Maybe RAI are discouraged, maybe they are more motivated to send very good entry, maybe they don't care very much about contest. I don't know :p

Actually, ESC has never been as popular as after last edition. Even weeks after the final, media kept talking about Conchita Wurst's victory and Emma Marrone's failure. xup

Verjamem
5th August 2014, 04:03
Actually, ESC has never been as popular as after last edition. Even weeks after the final, media kept talking about Conchita Wurst's victory and Emma Marrone's failure. xup
Maybe it's a good sign before ESC 2015 ;) If contest is popular, more people hear about it and some of them start watching/following competition :D
hunty73 - Thanks very much, now I look a bit more optimistic for Italy's situation xup

hunty73
19th August 2014, 15:52
Rumours Alessandra Amoroso might be one of the bigs at sanremo next year.If she is i dont think she can be in Amici talent show as a mentor so need to watch that.Shes a Sony artist so i doubt an ESC entry next year but could be a favourite to win sanremo.Id expect her to get a huge televote and she is very jury friendly.I still think the esc entry might be a warner artist this year.

oxy333
19th August 2014, 18:08
For the ones who said that this year ESC's interest in Italy grown up, what? Did you see the share? ? Just for the finals:

1.878.000 and 9.17% share (2013)
1.747.000 and 8.77% share (2014)

Emma was the only reason of the dust raised by media here in Italy this year, she is way too much famous than Gualazzi, Zilli or Mengoni in 2013. Other singers would never take part to ESC after growing really famous.

Speaking about the previous italian entries, if we read the splitted positions between televote and juries:

Gualazzi: 11 televoting, 1 jury
Zilli: 17 televoting, 4 jury
Mengoni: 12 televoting, 9 jury
Emma: 22 televoting, 20 jury

ESC's audience doesn't like strong women :lol: it's a pity that Emma didn't perform well like her other lives here in Italy but I believe she would not achieved much more positions even with a much good performance, like Nina. "La mia città" is a very difficult song, has no music bridge and to a first listening could seems an aggressive rock song without emotion.

Annalisa is one of our best emerging talent but her music and her performances are really classic, she seems almost anachronistic, in very good way.

AshleyWright
19th August 2014, 18:21
I'll be interested to see what this years results will do to viewer figures next year.

hunty73
19th August 2014, 23:18
For the ones who said that this year ESC's interest in Italy grown up, what? Did you see the share? ? Just for the finals:

1.878.000 and 9.17% share (2013)
1.747.000 and 8.77% share (2014)

Annalisa is one of our best emerging talent but her music and her performances are really classic, she seems almost anachronistic, in very good way.

Talking to the converted here oxy333, Nali is my favourite artist in Europe.She combines real classy performances with hugely contemporary pop.Iv followed her with interest from way back and i admire her greatly.

Those figures though for viewers are doing ok.Italy and ESC is a long term project.The EBU is desperate for the ESC brand/audience to grow in Italy.RAI has a long term aim/plan to slowly increase the number of viewers and brand.Thats why RAI work very close with the record labels.They want big artists to attract the home viewers and the record companies get Europe wide exposure.

dragvision
20th August 2014, 00:02
yes but in Italy have talk about Conchita in many media

Krishoes
20th August 2014, 01:32
In 2014 you can't analyse the result of a tv programme only by its audience. We are in the era of Web 2.0 and we know that here in Italy media and press are talking much more about Eurovision year by year. Unfortunately the italian audience who watches the tv has a median age very different from those who use the social network.

There are too many speeches to do: saturday evening, other programmes on air (= Amici di Maria De Filippi, our biggest enemy), previous advertising about Eurovision on tv (Rai should do something special for Eurovision to increase the attention), results of musical programmes on our channels and so on...

oxy333
20th August 2014, 09:03
This year I've seen for the first time a real advertisement campaign by RAI, they were really trying to coinvolge the audience. And I don't think Amici have "stolen" audience to Eurovision on RAI 2, they have different viewers.

The audience numbers decree if a program should exist or not in the italian TV. This year as I have already written, all the chatters were about Emma, without her, italian online press, the blogger posts and the youtube critics would have been like in 2011, 2012 and 2013.
I'm curious to know if before the 1997 stop the audience were much different.

Not to be pessimist, but after 2013 we stopped with the growth, we will see next year, the audience should familiarize with the contest. Maybe, if RAI talk about ESC during Sanremo, a LOT of visibility and publicity for sure.


yes but in Italy have talk about Conchita in many media
Who did't talk about Conchita? ;)

hunty73
20th August 2014, 09:44
This year I've seen for the first time a real advertisement campaign by RAI, they were really trying to coinvolge the audience. And I don't think Amici have "stolen" audience to Eurovision on RAI 2, they have different viewers.

The audience numbers decree if a program should exist or not in the italian TV. This year as I have already written, all the chatters were about Emma, without her, italian online press, the blogger posts and the youtube critics would have been like in 2011, 2012 and 2013.
I'm curious to know if before the 1997 stop the audience were much different.

Not to be pessimist, but after 2013 we stopped with the growth, we will see next year, the audience should familiarize with the contest. Maybe, if RAI talk about ESC during Sanremo, a LOT of visibility and publicity for sure.


Who did't talk about Conchita? ;)


I agree oxy the ESC entry should be announced at Sanremo on the saturday night and performed.It shouldnt have to be an Sanremo entry though as the two contests need different sorts of songs to do well.
I do think Amici takes away some of the esc audience but again if done right it could be used to push the esc profile by having the esc artist perform the song on there as well.RAI need to target that Amici audience.
Lets hope next year its another big artist with a great song.

Krishoes
20th August 2014, 18:34
I don't think Amici have "stolen" audience to Eurovision on RAI 2, they have different viewers.

PLEASE!!! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: I can't stop laughing, I'm sorry!!!

EMMA = AMICI. Many fans of her said: "I'm not going to watch Eurovision, I want to follow the new episode of Amici"! :twisted:

Krishoes
20th August 2014, 18:36
The audience numbers decree if a program should exist or not in the italian TV. This year as I have already written, all the chatters were about Emma, without her, italian online press, the blogger posts and the youtube critics would have been like in 2011, 2012 and 2013.

Have you been in Italy in 2013? 'Cause you're lying if you say that the attention of media was the same in 2013 and 2011-2012. Mengoni was the winner of Sanremo and everybody talked about his partecipation at the Eurovision with "L'essenziale".

Krishoes
20th August 2014, 18:37
I'm curious to know if before the 1997 stop the audience were much different.

You can go here: Ascolti TV Eurovision in Italia (http://eurofestivalnews.com/ascolti-tv-eurovision-song-contest-in-italia/)

DanielLuis
20th August 2014, 19:50
Except for the time Italy hosted it was much worse than it is now!

Verjamem
20th August 2014, 20:32
I'm not very suprised, if we see that sometimes contest wasn't broadcasted on the main channel. Eurovision had a lot better viewing figures at years, in which was shown on Rai Uno.
Similar situation occurred in Sweden in 90s. ESC had weaker viewing figures, because contest was shown on SVT2 (instead of SVT1).
BTW
Where is the results from years 1994-1996? Italy didn't had to show it at least in 1996?

Sean
21st August 2014, 01:34
Interesting, Romans make up our biggest demographic :mrgreen:

DanielLuis
21st August 2014, 08:39
I'm not very suprised, if we see that sometimes contest wasn't broadcasted on the main channel. Eurovision had a lot better viewing figures at years, in which was shown on Rai Uno.
Similar situation occurred in Sweden in 90s. ESC had weaker viewing figures, because contest was shown on SVT2 (instead of SVT1).
BTW
Where is the results from years 1994-1996? Italy didn't had to show it at least in 1996?

Well nowadays it's not broadcasted on Rai Uno either and it gets much bigger ratings anyway.

oxy333
21st August 2014, 08:49
Krishoes, like I wrote "italian online press, the blogger posts and the youtube critics would have been like in 2011, 2012 and 2013", and we are talking about Eurovision not Sanremo press. Mengoni obviusly got more attention than Zilli and Gualazzi, and Emma, well, if you are italian you know what happened, 10 to 5 compared to Mengoni.



PLEASE!!! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: I can't stop laughing, I'm sorry!!!

EMMA = AMICI. Many fans of her said: "I'm not going to watch Eurovision, I want to follow the new episode of Amici"! :twisted:

Keep on laughing! ;) I read all the contrary, fans of Emma are fans of Emma, not Amici. And, Emma sung for 3 minutes. Amici was competitor of RAI 2 for the final in 2013 too, but the share were higher than 2014. If you believe that without Amici RAI 2 would have gained 5 million of viewers of boys and girls 10-18 age range...
In Italy there is indifference towards Eurovision, we have Sanremo before ESC was born, it's different from others european countries. But with more promotion something should change, like wrote by Verjamem, RAI 1 for example could make a good difference.

Thanks for the link ;)

Verjamem
21st August 2014, 09:53
Well nowadays it's not broadcasted on Rai Uno either and it gets much bigger ratings anyway.
Yes, but I think that different attitude was in Italy then and now. In 90s people was bored and tired of Eurovision, but now they are interested because country came back after many years (especially in 2011).

DanielLuis
21st August 2014, 11:16
Yes, but I think that different attitude was in Italy then and now. In 90s people was bored and tired of Eurovision, but now they are interested because country came back after many years (especially in 2011).

Yeah and hopefully the interest will keep on growing. I hope eventually it will move to Rai Uno and stay there instead of moving back to 2 or 3. I guess if Italy wins and then do well with the hosting and the result on the year they host that would happen.

Krishoes
12th September 2014, 10:56
Italy will be in Wien! :)

Ufficiale, l’Italia sarà in gara all’Eurovision Song Contest 2015 (http://eurofestivalnews.com/2014/09/12/ufficiale-litalia-in-gara-alleurovision-song-contest-2015/)

Mimimatz
12th September 2014, 11:11
Now the Finalists are all there!

GRE
12th September 2014, 12:04
These are good news !
The last moment Italy is in !

QwaarJet
12th September 2014, 13:56
Italy know how to do Eurovision, so I have high expectations once again. I'd like to see Emma Marrone go again with a better song.

Franco
12th September 2014, 14:59
Well, it would have been inconceivable for Italy to compete in ESC junior and ditch the real thing.

CPV4931
12th September 2014, 15:06
Good news also from Italy - we get more and more next year. Now waiting for San Marino to confirm participation.

DanielLuis
12th September 2014, 16:02
I don't think Italy will be ditching Eurovision in the next few years. RAI seems very interested in rising the contest's popularity in Italy, and they are also clearly trying to have good results.

malta
12th September 2014, 16:07
italy have had some great (maybe kind) results in the last few years so dont think they will be ditching it any time soon

pressman
12th September 2014, 18:37
I hope Italy keeps sending their best singers to Eurovision! Would be so nice to have Raphael Gualazzi back :mrgreen:

Verjamem
12th September 2014, 22:57
I'm really curious, what they will send next year. Perspective of Italian victory after 25 years and ESC 2016 in Rome/Milan/Turin, sounds good to me.

Haverdge
13th September 2014, 00:11
Eurovision in Italy would be awesome!

Matt
13th September 2014, 00:14
I'm still waiting for a great entry from Italy. Their choices have been quite popular over the last few years but I wasn't a big fan.

DanielLuis
13th September 2014, 01:34
I'm still waiting for a great entry from Italy. Their choices have been quite popular over the last few years but I wasn't a big fan.

I really liked 2012, but I found the others rather decent insted of exciting or a favourite of mine to be quite honest.

hunty73
13th September 2014, 10:38
It would be very very hard for Italy to win an ESC.Their best artists songs while top quality arent the sort of songs that win an ESC.Take Arisa.La Notte was an incredible song but would probably be 3rd-6th at ESC.Controvento probably 6th-10th.
Malika Ayane,take Tre Cose,probably 4th-8th.Annalisa Scarrone with Diamante lei e luce lui another probably 4th-6th.Dolcenera with Ci vediamo a casa another 4th -8th.Alessandra Amoroso with None devi perdermi probably 8th-12th.

Now those are all amazing artist and wonderful songs but you couldnt see any winning an ESC simply because they dont have the killer hooks and staging potential.Italy to win an ESC need the televoters to appreciate class more,or send a contemporary singer/singers that are less high brow.Interesting to see who gets the ticket this year.Surely it will be Nali or Arisa?.

QwaarJet
13th September 2014, 13:51
I'm still waiting for a great entry from Italy. Their choices have been quite popular over the last few years but I wasn't a big fan.

I agree in that they haven't had a great entry yet. They've all been solid. If they had sent Non e l'inferno in 2012 they would have had a great entry. The best they have sent so far (since returning) is probably Madness Of Love.

AshleyWright
13th September 2014, 13:57
I'm still waiting for a great entry from Italy. Their choices have been quite popular over the last few years but I wasn't a big fan.

Agree, I haven't liked their entries since they returned at all. With the exception of this years song, the first Italian I've liked since their return. It is such a shame she wasn't that good vocally on the night.


The best they have sent so far (since returning) is probably Madness Of Love.

Opinions. I find that one to be the worse xshrug. I thought it was an awful song that didn't deserve the left side of the board let alone second.

Charly
13th September 2014, 17:53
Laura Pausini time xthink

Krishoes
15th September 2014, 12:12
We have to pick a really bad song to reach some tastes, I guess. :?

hunty73
15th September 2014, 15:17
We have to pick a really bad song to reach some tastes, I guess. :?

I think selecting outside of San Remo is the right way to go Krishoes.Emma wasted her chance though.The song wasnt right for ESC.
I have no doubt at all that Italy right now has the most talented artists in Europe.However to win an ESC you need to get televoters to pick up the phone.RAI and the record labels need to remember winning an ESC doesnt take the same things as winning the bigs at San Remo.

Are there any rumours yet on who the bigs are next year?

Nalis ľultimo addio preview sounds wonderful,she should of saved that)

Franco
15th September 2014, 19:44
Are there any rumours yet on who the bigs are next year?



They'll start spreading on late october, I guess.

Krishoes
16th September 2014, 13:59
Are there any rumours yet on who the bigs are next year?

On All Music Italia it has been written that Marco Carta, Anna Tatangelo and Dear Jack will be in Sanremo 100%.

There are also rumours about: Michele Bravi, Chiara Galiazzo, Francesca Michielin, Immanuel Casto e Romina Falconi, Annalisa Scarrone, Alessandra Amoroso, Deborah Iurato, Moreno, Valerio Scanu, Greta, Paolo Macagnino, Dolcenera, Laura Bono, Alessandro Casillo, Attilio Fontana, Loretta Goggi, Giò Di Tonno.

Sanremo 2015: MARCO CARTA, ANNA TATANGELO e DEAR JACK nel cast? » » aLLMusicItalia (http://www.allmusicitalia.it/news/sanremo-2015-marco-carta-anna-tatangelo-e-dear-jack-nel-cast.html)

hunty73
16th September 2014, 15:41
On All Music Italia it has been written that Marco Carta, Anna Tatangelo and Dear Jack will be in Sanremo 100%.

There are also rumours about: Michele Bravi, Chiara Galiazzo, Francesca Michielin, Immanuel Casto e Romina Falconi, Annalisa Scarrone, Alessandra Amoroso, Deborah Iurato, Moreno, Valerio Scanu, Greta, Paolo Macagnino, Dolcenera, Laura Bono, Alessandro Casillo, Attilio Fontana, Loretta Goggi, Giò Di Tonno.

Sanremo 2015: MARCO CARTA, ANNA TATANGELO e DEAR JACK nel cast? » » aLLMusicItalia (http://www.allmusicitalia.it/news/sanremo-2015-marco-carta-anna-tatangelo-e-dear-jack-nel-cast.html)

Thanks Krishoes.Lets say that list was 100% right id have the winner between Alessandra Amoroso and Annalisa with the right songs.Dear Jack would get a huge televote but youd think the jury would want to keep them out of the top 3 super final to make sure they didnt win.Marco Carta would be interesting but i doubt he has the televote firepower to win.Dolcenera would be high up the jury scores but you cant see her getting close to Nali or Alessandra in a last 3 televote.Add Malika Ayane into that group and id be happy),

PamSwynford
16th September 2014, 17:02
On All Music Italia it has been written that Marco Carta, Anna Tatangelo and Dear Jack will be in Sanremo 100%.

There are also rumours about: Michele Bravi, Chiara Galiazzo, Francesca Michielin, Immanuel Casto e Romina Falconi, Annalisa Scarrone, Alessandra Amoroso, Deborah Iurato, Moreno, Valerio Scanu, Greta, Paolo Macagnino, Dolcenera, Laura Bono, Alessandro Casillo, Attilio Fontana, Loretta Goggi, Giò Di Tonno.

Sanremo 2015: MARCO CARTA, ANNA TATANGELO e DEAR JACK nel cast? » » aLLMusicItalia (http://www.allmusicitalia.it/news/sanremo-2015-marco-carta-anna-tatangelo-e-dear-jack-nel-cast.html)

O mio Dio, o mio Dio, o mio Dio, aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa Dear Jack!!! Just I wrote before how I would love to see them on ESC or Sanremo stage!!! :D

Jim
16th September 2014, 18:52
I hope for Anna Tatangelo or Annalisa Scarrone...

hunty73
23rd September 2014, 21:22
Festival di Sanremo 2015: ecco che tra big ed ospiti stranieri spunta anche la carta... Fiorello*-*Quotidiano online della provincia di Imperia (http://www.sanremonews.it/2014/09/23/leggi-notizia/articolo/festival-di-sanremo-2015-eco-che-tra-big-ed-ospiti-stranieri-spunta-anche-la-carta-fiorello.html)

Are these just more rumours for sanremo?

elanyvx
23rd September 2014, 22:30
Festival di Sanremo 2015: ecco che tra big ed ospiti stranieri spunta anche la carta... Fiorello*-*Quotidiano online della provincia di Imperia (http://www.sanremonews.it/2014/09/23/leggi-notizia/articolo/festival-di-sanremo-2015-eco-che-tra-big-ed-ospiti-stranieri-spunta-anche-la-carta-fiorello.html)

Are these just more rumours for sanremo?

Yes these are just rumors, something more serious we will know in December

Scooby
23rd September 2014, 23:18
Anna Tatangelo xheartxheartxheart
Annalisa Scaronne xheartxheartxheart

Ahhhhhhh Italians I love youuuuuu so muchhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

oxy333
24th September 2014, 17:00
If RAI follow this pattern: man (2011), woman (2012), man (2013) and woman (2014), in 2015 maybe the choice will fall back for a man :lol:

Scooby
24th September 2014, 18:35
If RAI follow this pattern: man (2011), woman (2012), man (2013) and woman (2014), in 2015 maybe the choice will fall back for a man :lol:

So 2015 is male year soooo Tiziano, my love Italiano xheart xheart xheart xheart xheart xheart


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_KN_nyGehek

hunty73
24th September 2014, 21:54
If RAI follow this pattern: man (2011), woman (2012), man (2013) and woman (2014), in 2015 maybe the choice will fall back for a man :lol:

Maybe Moda?,i think it will be a Warner artist this year assuming they want the ticket.Sony got the nod last year.Still think Arisa and Nali will be favourites for the ticket, but there are plenty of great artists to choose from at the moment.Wide open.

elanyvx
24th September 2014, 23:01
Maybe Moda?,i think it will be a Warner artist this year assuming they want the ticket.Sony got the nod last year.Still think Arisa and Nali will be favourites for the ticket, but there are plenty of great artists to choose from at the moment.Wide open.

Modà don't have album in project, Arisa has already released an album in the last edition of Sanremo (2014). Maybe Annalisa would be the only one able to go ?

hunty73
25th September 2014, 11:59
Modà don't have album in project, Arisa has already released an album in the last edition of Sanremo (2014). Maybe Annalisa would be the only one able to go ?

xyaaayxyaaay

3rd single from the album an ESC entry elanyvx)?,or maybe a 4th single for Sanremo and ESC in Febuary?,:o ,its nice to dream isnt it :lol:

elanyvx
25th September 2014, 12:24
xyaaayxyaaay

3rd single from the album an ESC entry elanyvx)?,or maybe a 4th single for Sanremo and ESC in Febuary?,:o ,its nice to dream isnt it :lol:

Annalisa has already released two singles but the album is not out yet, maybe she want to submit a song for Sanremo ... If she will be singer of Sanremo 2015 definitely will release the album and so the third single (of Sanremo)
usually, the official names of singers (of Sanremo) will be announced in December.

PamSwynford
27th September 2014, 00:19
OMG, I want this guy! xrofl xrofl
Video Rai.TV - Tale e Quale Show 2014 - Missione impossibile - Conchita Wurst - Gabriele Cirilli (http://www.rai.tv/dl/RaiTV/programmi/media/ContentItem-a9046cc3-75c2-4b95-9938-885bcbfe33c9.html#p=0)

DanielLuis
29th September 2014, 20:34
So it seems that the winner of San Remo will represent Italy in Vienna. If the winner refuses to do so, RAI will choose one of the other participants to take part instead.
If this is true it seems that RAI really wants to level up the popularity of the ESC in Italy.

elanyvx
29th September 2014, 20:41
So it seems that the winner of San Remo will represent Italy in Vienna. If the winner refuses to do so, RAI will choose one of the other participants to take part instead.
If this is true it seems that RAI really wants to level up the popularity of the ESC in Italy.

And On December 14th will be unveiled the names of 16 singers :)

DanielLuis
29th September 2014, 20:42
And On December 14th will be unveiled the names of 16 singers :)

Hopefully Annalisa will take part!

elanyvx
29th September 2014, 20:47
Hopefully Annalisa will take part!

I cross my fingers for Annalisa but if she does not win Sanremo, she will not go to Eurovision :cry::cry::cry:

hunty73
29th September 2014, 21:30
And On December 14th will be unveiled the names of 16 singers :)

Is it 100% that the esc entry will be the sanremo winner?,is it official from RAI?

Franco
29th September 2014, 22:02
Is it 100% that the esc entry will be the sanremo winner?,is it official from RAI?

Yep!
Google Translate (http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=auto&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Feurofestivalnews.com%2F2014%2F09%2F 29%2Feurovision-2015-per-litalia-andra-vincitore-sanremo%2F)

DanielLuis
29th September 2014, 22:33
I cross my fingers for Annalisa but if she does not win Sanremo, she will not go to Eurovision :cry::cry::cry:

Unless the winner refuses to take part and RAI choose Annalisa

hunty73
29th September 2014, 22:40
Yep!
Google Translate (http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=auto&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Feurofestivalnews.com%2F2014%2F09%2F 29%2Feurovision-2015-per-litalia-andra-vincitore-sanremo%2F)

Thanks Franco,

An interesting move to boost ESC in Italy linking to the festival winner BUT im not sure a song that wins a Sanremo will win an ESC.Sanremo winners tend to be really classy songs that grow on an audience over the week.ESC winners tend to be contemporary songs laden with hooks,key changes and a bridge.

I just hope then that Nali can pull of winning a Sanremo,but iv got a feeling Alessandra Amoroso might be favourite this year.At least it makes the festival much more interesting for ESC fans as its become the selection show.

Franco
29th September 2014, 23:30
Thanks Franco,

An interesting move to boost ESC in Italy linking to the festival winner BUT im not sure a song that wins a Sanremo will win an ESC.Sanremo winners tend to be really classy songs that grow on an audience over the week.ESC winners tend to be contemporary songs laden with hooks,key changes and a bridge.


It doesn't really have to be the Sanremo song. Like Nina Zilli with Out of love instead of Per sempre. All Sanremo contestants will have a new album with lots of songs to choose from.
Furthermore, winning is not that important. As long as it's someone I can heartily root for, I'm happy. xcheer






I just hope then that Nali can pull of winning a Sanremo,but iv got a feeling Alessandra Amoroso might be favourite this year.At least it makes the festival much more interesting for ESC fans as its become the selection show.

In that case, there is still hope that the winner quits and Caligiore picks Annalisa Scarrone (or Dolcenera would be good as well).

hunty73
30th September 2014, 00:07
It doesn't really have to be the Sanremo song. Like Nina Zilli with Out of love instead of Per sempre. All Sanremo contestants will have a new album with lots of songs to choose from.

Argh right,so the Sanremo winner is the entry for ESC (if they want it) BUT it doesnt have to be the Sanremo winning song.It might be or might be a different song.
Furthermore, winning is not that important. As long as it's someone I can heartily root for, I'm happy. xcheer






In that case, there is still hope that the winner quits and Caligiore picks Annalisa Scarrone (or Dolcenera would be good as well).

I would be very happy with that.Dolcenera is another superb artist and would be a great choice but i think shed struggle to win a last 3 super final on televotes.

Thats guessing the last 3 super final will remain televote only?

Mrm
30th September 2014, 00:14
Anna Oxa or Loredana Berte please!! xlove xheart

Franco
30th September 2014, 00:54
Thats guessing the last 3 super final will remain televote only?

No. The first 3 days it will be 50% televote + 50% jury. The last 2 days it will be 40% televote + 30% jury + 30% poll system.

hunty73
30th September 2014, 00:56
No. The first 3 days it will be 50% televote + 50% jury. The last 2 days it will be 40% televote + 30% jury + 30% poll system.

So is there still a last three super final Franco? Or just a winner announced from them all?

hunty73
30th September 2014, 00:59
oh and whats the 30% poll system?

AshleyWright
30th September 2014, 01:02
Keeping it as simple as possible? :? further explanation is needed on that 30% poll system? Is it an online vote?

hunty73
30th September 2014, 01:09
Franco will keep us right Ashley :D but yes what is the poll system and is there still a televote only super final?,or simply a winner announced from the 40% televote,30% jury,30% poll system with no super final?.

Mrm
30th September 2014, 01:17
hunty73 AshleyWright

That 30 % system is set up for Loredana Berte to take the trophy! xyes xyes xyes

Franco
30th September 2014, 01:48
So is there still a last three super final Franco?

Yes. The 3 most voted artists will have to perform again and they will be voted again, still with the 40%+30%+30% system



oh and whats the 30% poll system?

Keeping it as simple as possible? :? further explanation is needed on that 30% poll system? Is it an online vote?


The poll system is made of 300 selected people who are supposed to be representative of the whole population. They vote from home.

hunty73
30th September 2014, 10:31
Thankyou Franco, perfectly explained :D

Probably a decent way to do it,

Franco
30th September 2014, 12:15
You're welcome. ;)

DanielLuis
30th September 2014, 12:24
Yes. The 3 most voted artists will have to perform again and they will be voted again, still with the 40%+30%+30% system






The poll system is made of 300 selected people who are supposed to be representative of the whole population. They vote from home.

Don't really understand the point of that. They might as well just make 70 televote and 30 jury.

Franco
30th September 2014, 13:09
Don't really understand the point of that. They might as well just make 70 televote and 30 jury.


Televote is biased by the zeal of the fans voting multiple times and by the record companies buying votes for their artists from call centers.
I think that the poll can be biased as well, though. xshrug
I would have kept the 50% televote + 50% jury.

AshleyWright
30th September 2014, 13:40
The poll system is made of 300 selected people who are supposed to be representative of the whole population. They vote from home.



Televote is biased by the zeal of the fans voting multiple times and by the record companies buying votes for their artists from call centers.
I think that the poll can be biased as well, though. xshrug
I would have kept the 50% televote + 50% jury.

I don't really see the point of it apart from trying to reduce the biased televote. xshrug

DanielLuis
30th September 2014, 13:44
Televote is biased by the zeal of the fans voting multiple times and by the record companies buying votes for their artists from call centers.
I think that the poll can be biased as well, though. xshrug
I would have kept the 50% televote + 50% jury.

Exactly 50/50 is the best. The poll system can also be easily rigged I think.

hunty73
30th September 2014, 14:41
The poll system also helps to even out the affect of the younger demographic multiple voting.Although it makes it much harder to find the likely winner it does probably make whoever does win a fair winner.
Now the winner is also the ESC entry winning Sanremo becomes even bigger for record labels though.We will have to see how it works out.

If a Warner or Sony artist keeps winning under this system youd have to start to question if its really fair.

hunty73
30th September 2014, 14:43
Exactly 50/50 is the best. The poll system can also be easily rigged I think.

I hope so Daniel,iv already hired people to take all 300 hostage.All 300 votes will be going to Annalisa if they want to see another sunrise :lol:

AshleyWright
30th September 2014, 15:05
I hope so Daniel,iv already hired people to take all 300 hostage.All 300 votes will be going to Annalisa if they want to see another sunrise :lol:

all 300 would be too obvious, 299 should be an ideal number of people to threaten with death if they don't vote for Annalisa. So no one notices the poll system has been rigged.

DanielLuis
30th September 2014, 16:39
I hope so Daniel,iv already hired people to take all 300 hostage.All 300 votes will be going to Annalisa if they want to see another sunrise :lol:

:lol: So we already know where and what to look for if 300 people die on San Remo's finale night

Jim
30th September 2014, 20:30
Anna Oxa or Loredana Berte please!! xlove xheart

I want that mysterious lady, Loredana, yes!!! :D

IncognitoGH
3rd October 2014, 17:20
Someone who can rock an Italian suit and sing.

PamSwynford
3rd October 2014, 17:38
OMG, today on Radio Rijeka I've heard "La mia città", which is quite interesting since Radio Rijeka doesn't play songs from ESC. :o

IncognitoGH
3rd October 2014, 17:44
OMG, today on Radio Rijeka I've heard "La mia città", which is quite interesting since Radio Rijeka doesn't play songs from ESC. :o

Heard it a few times on other stations too. I always have a made meltdown of joy when I hear an ESC song being played on the radio.

PamSwynford
3rd October 2014, 19:11
Heard it a few times on other stations too. I always have a made meltdown of joy when I hear an ESC song being played on the radio.

Me too. I have it on my cell. :D And I forgot to mention that they've released the Eurovision version, not the album version!

elanyvx
7th October 2014, 13:25
New single and official video for Annalisa !! L'Ultimo Addio xcry1 AMAZING


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kgTx8GBKk-0

hunty73
7th October 2014, 19:57
Shes superb,and a great song xheat.I think they are saving the best one of her new album for Sanremo.Surely she must be one of the bigs this year).If Nali and Alessandra Amoroso are both there i think its between those two for the win depending on the songs.December 14th we should know the bigs:o

Franco
11th October 2014, 01:23
Hersi Matmuja guest on TG2 Insieme news magazine (Rai2 channel) (starting from 10:00).
http://www.rai.tv/dl/RaiTV/programmi/media/ContentItem-28595cd0-4273-4dab-8560-3242ad0d7d36-tg2.html#p=0

Cyberbliss
11th October 2014, 19:33
Everyone seems to like Annalisa! I had many doubts about her, she never really convinced me. Her two new singles have a different approach, I like them a lot and she seems now ready to a bigger public, so she's definitely got something up her sleeve. If she will participate in Sanremo, there's a good chance that she may want to go to ESC as well.

But there are some other artists with new records on sale at the moment and that may participate in Sanremo; usually in autumn these albums come out and in February record labels try to boost the sales with a Sanremo participation.

I'm talking about Chiara Galiazzo (the best voice we have at the moment, I like her more than Annalisa), Dolcenera, Marina Rei and I wouldn't even mind seeing an outsider like Mario Venuti in an ESC edition, I hope it's him: he's a very talented musician, songwriter, writes non-conventional pop songs and he's also a sexy 40yo, which in ESC may attract more than one follower! Its catchiest songs definitely fit ESC. Unfortunately his (beautiful) last album is a bit underrated at the moment, so he's almost certainly going to Sanremo.

I don't think that Alessandra Amoroso will go neither to Sanremo nor to ESC, same as our top selling artists you mentioned before like Tiziano Ferro, Giorgia, Elisa and Laura Pausini, they're not into this (and in my opinion we need something fresher, they're a bit stuck in their own time)

Cyberbliss
11th October 2014, 19:37
Oh, there he is!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tO6K4mzLuOg

hunty73
12th October 2014, 12:04
I agree Cyberbliss there are some very good artists.Chiara Galiazzo is a superb vocalist.Id add Malika Ayane to that list as well.Shes really matured as well and knows how to deliver live.It will be interesting to see if Alessandra goes to Sanremo.Sony had a flop with Emma at ESC and might not fancy another of their big artists going again.Winning Sanremo and turning down ESC also wouldnt look good.
Saying that Warner won last year and it would be pushing it for them to take it again with Annalisa next year.Like you said her last two singles have shown a very mature approach and its obvious they must be saving the best for the 3rd single from a new album.Her televote in 2013 was very good but her jury vote was low due to taking light weight songs.I doubt theyd make that mistake again and would have a better jury song if she was one of the bigs.

Id be very happy to see Dolcenera win.Shes hugely talented and fantastic live.My worry would be i just cant see her getting a big enough televote to challenge in a last 3 sing off.Looking forward to see the names announced.

Cyberbliss
13th October 2014, 10:07
Dolcenera needs a huge hit, that's what she's been missing throughout her career: a monster hit. Many beautiful songs but no breathtaking one. She always seems on the verge on doing something great, and then she slips the step. I'd love to see her win.

As for Malika Ayane, she's a public favourite but I don't like her voice. Her success was somehow "forced" by the label and heavy radio rotation.

Chiara Galiazzo has the most international appeal, she's also a lovely person and can sing in a perfect English (unlike Emma).

hunty73
13th October 2014, 15:09
Dolcenera had a great Sanremo song in 2012 but that was a very strong year so in a way shes always unlucky.I think Malika Ayane is a superb singer,but i guess its down to different tastes.She did very well with the jury in 13 but got a low televote,she was up against televote big hitters in Mengoni/Moda and Nali though.I only speak a small amount of Italian (learnt through music over the years etc) so i tend to go for vocals/delivery/song structure.
Chiara would need a knockout song to win id think.
We will have to see the list of bigs in december to see whos in with a chance.This years festival was very weak i thought after 12/13 that were very strong years.Arisa won probably because La Notte deserved to win a Sanremo but came upon L inferno the same year.Probably the best 1st and 2nd for decades.

Ellen
14th October 2014, 23:14
This is a POSSIBLE list of Sanremo 2015 artists posted by the Italian tv magazine "TV Sorrisi & Canzoni":
• Valerio Scanu
• Dolcenera
• Alessandra Amoroso
• Kekko (Modà)
• Annalisa
• Marco Masini
• Marco Carta
• Clementino
• Irene Grandi
• Dear Jack

Half of them are from "Amici", no way...
Too bad there probably won't be Chiara Galiazzo next year, I like Annalisa though.

bURN
14th October 2014, 23:27
Marco Massini sounds interesting ! I wonder if it is another "Vaffanculo" song

PamSwynford
14th October 2014, 23:40
This is a POSSIBLE list of Sanremo 2015 artists posted by the Italian tv magazine "TV Sorrisi & Canzoni":
• Valerio Scanu
• Dolcenera
• Alessandra Amoroso
• Kekko (Modà)
• Annalisa
• Marco Masini
• Marco Carta
• Clementino
• Irene Grandi
• Dear Jack

Half of them are from "Amici", no way...
Too bad there probably won't be Chiara Galiazzo next year, I like Annalisa though.

When will end this season of "Tale e Qualle Show"? I'm asking because Scanu is this year's contestant. And he's doing an amazing job! :o

hunty73
15th October 2014, 00:54
This is a POSSIBLE list of Sanremo 2015 artists posted by the Italian tv magazine "TV Sorrisi & Canzoni":
• Valerio Scanu
• Dolcenera
• Alessandra Amoroso
• Kekko (Modà)
• Annalisa
• Marco Masini
• Marco Carta
• Clementino
• Irene Grandi
• Dear Jack

Half of them are from "Amici", no way...
Too bad there probably won't be Chiara Galiazzo next year, I like Annalisa though.

Take it from an Englishman,Alessandra and Nali will be fighting it out in the last 3 sing off for the win.:o ,but who will be the other last 3 act,Marco Massini?
A Sony / Warner battle?,,,
Cant wait for the names on december 14th,xyes

Franco
15th October 2014, 09:41
This is a POSSIBLE list of Sanremo 2015 artists posted by the Italian tv magazine "TV Sorrisi & Canzoni":
• Valerio Scanu
• Dolcenera
• Alessandra Amoroso
• Kekko (Modà)
• Annalisa
• Marco Masini
• Marco Carta
• Clementino
• Irene Grandi
• Dear Jack

Half of them are from "Amici", no way...
Too bad there probably won't be Chiara Galiazzo next year, I like Annalisa though.


I'd love it to be either Annalisa or Dolcenera.
Maybe Irene Grandi would be ok, too.
All the other names leave me cold and unenthusiastic.

theCONWEL
15th October 2014, 23:17
I hope its Alessandra that goes to Vienna, she must be my favourite Italian artist.

IncognitoGH
16th October 2014, 14:01
I'm waiting for Mengoni to return

Krishoes
18th October 2014, 00:30
Sony had a flop with Emma at ESC and might not fancy another of their big artists going again.

Emma has a contract with Universal not Sony.

hunty73
18th October 2014, 12:57
Emma has a contract with Universal not Sony.

Ah yes shes under Universal isnt she and Alessandra is with Sony as is Chiara.What Sony artists do you think might be among the bigs Krishoes?.Do you think Deborah Lurato might be there or too early for her?
I always like to look at the battle between the big labels at the festival.

SerbianNS
18th October 2014, 13:03
All expect great SanRemo and even better song for the esc.

Mrm
25th October 2014, 00:32
I want Laura Pausini!! xlove

Franco
17th November 2014, 17:53
The list of singers for Sanremo will be officially released on the 14th of December.

revallsay
17th November 2014, 17:55
Tiziano Ferro would be awesome!

RomanFromRussia
6th December 2014, 17:26
http://youtu.be/amq-0gyG-gs

Antonio would be awesome choice for Italy xlove

Franco
6th December 2014, 22:03
^ Never heard of him, but yeah! It would be cool to bring an apulian folk song like this one. xup

Cyberbliss
8th December 2014, 11:25
Antonio would be awesome choice for Italy xlove

Be serious. What a subtle way to get attention. Who's this nerd, yelling upon a very bad folk song? Best suitable to the Taranta Festival, not to ESC audiences. xslap

Franco
10th December 2014, 21:24
Last rumors (before we'll have the official list, on next Sunday).

The Sanremo contestants could be 18 out of these names:

NEK
BRITTI
MASINI
ENRICO RUGGERI
LUCA BARBAROSSA
MARIO BIONDI
FABI/SILVESTRI/GAZZE’
ROCCO HUNT
CLEMENTINO
NESLI
SCANU
CARTA
GIO DI TONNO
LORENZO FRAGOLA
DEAR JACK
CHIARA
ANNALISA
ANNA TATANGELO
DOLCENERA
NINA ZILLI
IRENE GRANDI
SIMONA MOLINARI
MALIKA AYANE
SISTER CRISITNA
PATTY PRAVO
LOREDANA BERTE


In bold the ones that, IMHO, would make a great entry for ESC (+ Nina Zilli, of course, but I don't think that she would do it again so soon).

theCONWEL
10th December 2014, 21:37
I do really like Dear Jack, not my kind of thing at all but they're great... hope Italy choose them!

Cyberbliss
11th December 2014, 02:07
According to a press interview by host Carlo Conti in Sanremo we will find "someone who hasn't taken part in the show for almost twenty years".
Will there be a JALISSE comeback? :o or maybe melodic songwriter Nino Buonocore?

He also said there will be a "great international voice singing a song in Italian". Piers Faccini or Paolo Nutini????? That will be BOOOOOMMM!!!

Another hint he gave is about a "talented woman who is most notable for her peculiar hairstyles"... Maybe Rettore or again Noemi?

He also spoke about ESC and said that "the winner should go to ESC, but he/she has the chance to choose" (not clear when the decision will be made).

Among the most credited names at the moment we have Dear Jack, Chiara Galiazzo, Enrico Ruggeri, Dolcenera, Annalisa, Nina Zilli, Mario Venuti, and quite surprisingly Nek and Alice (yes, the one who came fourth in ESC 1984 with living legend Franco Battiato... fingers crossed for her Sanremo comeback).

In any case, all of the aforementioned names will make it for a really exciting show! Last but not least... Sanremo will be co-hosted by Emma Marrone and Arisa!

Sean
11th December 2014, 13:27
Bring The Bloody Beetroots back?

elanyvx
11th December 2014, 18:10
Official news: the singers for the Sanremo Festival will be 20 and not 16 :o :)

hunty73
11th December 2014, 20:55
Gosh im getting really excited now for these names.Franco's list would be incredible.Annalisa,Dolcenera and Malika Ayane would be lovely.There are some great names on that list but il always come down for Annalisa.Some of her songs are simply superb and she deserves to be seen by the whole of Europe.
Alice e il blu,Senza riserva,Non cambiare mai,Prato di orchidee,Tutta l'altra gente the list goes on and on of superb songs and superb delivery.

I play her songs every day in my car and get some strange looks from people in the petrol station etc,i dont think anyone else in Northern England has heard the girl from Savona :lol:

Mrm
11th December 2014, 21:01
Loredana Berte go to Vienna!!! xyes xlove xheart

Mrm
11th December 2014, 21:02
Gosh im getting really excited now for these names.Franco's list would be incredible.Annalisa,Dolcenera and Malika Ayane would be lovely.There are some great names on that list but il always come down for Annalisa.Some of her songs are simply superb and she deserves to be seen by the whole of Europe.
Alice e il blu,Senza riserva,Non cambiare mai,Prato di orchidee,Tutta l'altra gente the list goes on and on of superb songs and superb delivery.

I play her songs every day in my car and get some strange looks from people in the petrol station etc,i dont think anyone else in Northern England has heard the girl from Savona :lol:

You bring Hungarian and Italian music to England!! :D xyes :)

Mrm
11th December 2014, 21:03
Sister Cristina will take part?? :o

hunty73
11th December 2014, 21:07
You bring Hungarian and Italian music to England!! :D xyes :)

I do Mrm and also Illaria,Kaliopi and many more but Annalisa gets the most play;)