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doctormalisimo
6th May 2013, 18:40
San Marino, if there's any justice in the world, should qualify for the final next week. If they do, that's a remarkable achievement for a country of just 30,000 residents. Would that success be enough to lure some of the other microstates back, and possibly a debut for Liechtenstein? Luxembourg have been absent since 1993, Monaco since 2007 and Andorra since 2010. San Marino, Monaco and Andorra have never qualified for the final in the semi-final era, so you could argue that microstates are at a disadvantage in ESC due to a lack of singers, financial problems and international recognition (could your average joe even find Monaco or San Marino on a map?). If San Marino do qualify, it will be a victory for the microstates, and having seen one of their own smash the glass ceiling, the rest could be tempted back. I suspect all Andorran, Monegasque, Luxembourger and Liechtensteiner eyes will be on those envelopes next Thursday night, hoping one of their own does something incredible....

Yamarus
6th May 2013, 18:49
Maybe Monaco's position might change if San Marino qualifies. Andorra, I think, will return eventually, because they seem to be very keen on participating and just don't have the money for it. Liechtenstein will also participate eventually, regardless of San Marino's results.

I don't think Luxembourg can be compared with the other three though. It's quite a bit bigger, and it has a much longer history in the ESC. I don't think their decision would change much if San Marino qualifies.

CC92
6th May 2013, 19:01
I think Andorra and Luxemburg are not EBU members anymore?! xhmm

Amir
6th May 2013, 19:56
i didnt read anything yet, except the headline...
I just wanna ask. Which success?
San Marino didn't qualify yet...Monaco was also a fav in 2005 and it
became Bottom 5 if I remember right....

Guilep
6th May 2013, 20:27
I'm cheer for ::sm every year. They send good songs (except 2012). The country grows every year, so I think that they qualify.

doctormalisimo
6th May 2013, 20:38
i didnt read anything yet, except the headline...
I just wanna ask. Which success?
San Marino didn't qualify yet...Monaco was also a fav in 2005 and it
became Bottom 5 if I remember right....

Qualifying is a success nowadays, especially for such a small country. Very true, San Marino might not qualify, but I think they can and this is their best chance ever to do so (and any microstate's best chance to qualify since Andorra's 2007 entry which came 12th in it's semi).

Monaco came 24th (out of 25) in the semi final of 2005, just for the record.

DanielLuis
6th May 2013, 21:00
I think Andorra and Luxemburg are not EBU members anymore?! xhmm

They are. They were planning to withdraw from it, but they ended up not doing it.

Jim
6th May 2013, 21:42
I strongly believe that if San Marino will qualify and if also will take a good place in the final, we have many chances to see back to the contest Andorra & Monaco and maybe the debut of Liechtenstein! But I don't think that Luxembourg will come back soon, and especially in 2014!

mono
6th May 2013, 22:40
I do hope San Marino gets a top 10 this year. They have a very beautiful song and IMO i would love to see Valentina bitch slap everyone (inclunding me. i hated "the social network song" and i really felt it didnt had anything to do with her. this time i feel we are going to see the real Valentina on stage). with that in mind, i think there's a chance we see Andorra next year. Monaco? Not so much. And correct me if i'm wrong but with Lichtenstein it's just a matter of EBU accepting them.

Terence
6th May 2013, 23:04
i didnt read anything yet, except the headline...
I just wanna ask. Which success?
San Marino didn't qualify yet...Monaco was also a fav in 2005 and it
became Bottom 5 if I remember right....

I don't remember Monaco being a huge favourite back then - if they were, they certainly weren't as favoured as San Marino are this year!

In theory it can bring back smaller countries, but are they still broadcasting it? If not, interest would be very low, and it won't help matters that much!

Jim
6th May 2013, 23:56
I don't remember Monaco being a huge favourite back then - if they were, they certainly weren't as favoured as San Marino are this year!

In theory it can bring back smaller countries, but are they still broadcasting it? If not, interest would be very low, and it won't help matters that much!

No, Monaco wasn't a favorite in 2005. It was at the last places in bets!

Amir
7th May 2013, 21:14
No, Monaco wasn't a favorite in 2005. It was at the last places in bets!

maybe 2004? I don't know, I just somehow remember that Monaco was a fav in the betting odds one year...

CC92
7th May 2013, 21:27
No, Monaco wasn't a favorite in 2005. It was at the last places in bets!maybe 2004? I don't know, I just somehow remember that Monaco was a fav in the betting odds one year...

In the sixties or seventies possibly...

mono
7th May 2013, 21:28
no... monaco was never a fav!

A-lister
13th May 2013, 00:54
i didnt read anything yet, except the headline...
I just wanna ask. Which success?
San Marino didn't qualify yet...Monaco was also a fav in 2005 and it
became Bottom 5 if I remember right....

Monaco a favorite? Monaco has never been a favorite in the 00's...

If people call Luxembourg a micro-state, how come Malta isn't called the same? I think Malta's population happens to be even smaller :lol:

LoveHate
13th May 2013, 10:33
Iceland also has a smaller population.

NemesisNick
16th May 2013, 16:12
This year San Marino have a song which I feel is one of the best in the second semi-final. San Marino is therefore on my list of countries I most want to qualify this evening. It will be great to see San Marino in the final for the first time ever.

elvisontheisland
17th May 2013, 00:06
So they didn't. Turned to dust rather quickly.

Fluke
17th May 2013, 00:57
Well, now they obviously won't :(

Quent91
17th May 2013, 00:58
What success ? :lol:

MyHeartIsYours
17th May 2013, 02:41
LOL - as I predicted ;)

Eurovisionified
25th May 2013, 11:12
Well, in one kind of way they meet success - unsuccessful.

Sorry, just a really bad morning-Joke. xboring

lucian-crusher
25th May 2013, 13:54
Well, in one kind of way they meet success - unsuccessful.

They where close this year so, maybe next year they would do bether. I don't understand why everytime we have an "exotic" country as one of the favourites, that country screws the live performance. E.g.: ::lt 2005, ::cy 2007, ::ad 2008, ::sk 2010, ::hr 2010 and ::sm 2013 :(

SRBIJA
26th May 2013, 16:57
Jinx of the century. :lol:

Nikoreindeer1973
27th May 2014, 12:48
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5gDlYKrkQK8

Terence
26th October 2014, 05:24
With Andorra and Monaco sitting out for yet another year, and no debut from Liechenstein, it seems San Marino's qualification meant nothing for these microstates. :(